Transdermal EQ?

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

any one have advice on EQ with DMSO instead of the needle. im looking at starting AS but besides my general dislike of needles (juice virgin), i have other reasons for not using one that are more of a concern.

Any experience here? any ideas of the conversion % vs subcutaneous hypodermic delivery - and equivalent dosing factors (im about 210lbs)? dont need to look like the hulk, just picking up chicks.

 

[Big Brother Val]

The only advice I can offer on this is: Use the needle.
I had needle phobia bigtime. Now... I absolutely love injection days.

 

[The Iron Game]

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

Big Bro - squeemishness aside my issues relate to visibility of marks - and i understand that inexperienced self stickers (as well as medical staff) can make slight mistakes that may cause bruising.

 

[nexus7]

This just goes to show that if you need an answer on some orals or dmso stuff, don't ever say you don't like needles, cause all you 'll get is shit and flaming for not using injectables -

next time, just say you want info - no need to say you dont like needles...it won't get you anywhere here.
(by the way I posted a similar post asking about orals - then I thought fuck it - if I am gonna do AS I might as well do it right...and started injectables)

I dont have any info on DMSO EQ, sorry man...good luck

 

[Anabolix]

hey brow! Last night i just tryed some DURATESTON with DMSO. It's not worth it, it's a waste of gear, time , and patience.

PS: Guys, don't flame me, it was just en experiment.

Anabolix

 

[fooz]

leave the guy alone, he said that there are other concerns, maybe there is. You know some people cannot take shots. Some people can die from septic shock.....so quit giving the guy shit all he was doing was asking for advice...like everyone of you did in the beginning..

 

[Big Brother Val]

SHIT!! No flames intended, guys.
Not trying to be an ass, here.
Sorry if saying "Use the needle" was "flaming".
I don't have DMSO experience... nor would I even attempt it. Waste of time, in my opinion.
That's all I was saying.

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

OK how's this

<-------- SUPER MANLY HE-MAN is looking for information on transdermal (none of that sissy oral stuff) delivery of uberroidz - not that iwould actually use roidz trandermally - i REALLY enjoy being poked in the ass (ah but enough about my dating life).

----> Back to real life, this forum has a lot of people with truly expert experience and advice. please understand that people should be able to juice (only my opinion) in whatever way needed for their intended results as long as it's relatively safe and effective. my own reasons for not wishing to spike myself should not be at issue and if im willing to put out the $$$ for the extra product needed for transdermal, i would hope that i can get some advice on how to do it.

no offense to those who are hard core and need premium efficacy and are able to do hypo.

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

just to be sure - that "ass poking" paragraph was to be understood as a joke - dont want any inquisitive PMs...

truly interested tho.. - if no-one has gotten any results thats one thing - but i wonder how many have tried it? i am aware that MD's use transdermal delivery (outside the US) with relative frequensy to administer test and other AS

really would like to here from u guys - maybe EQ is not so good this way but surely others might be - any experiences - vs urban legends?

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

btw - the problem is mostly to do with the visibility of the gear in a small shared living space - roomates could get wierd about needles but dont know what the other stuff is for.

But im also not afraid to admit that even if this were not the case i am not thrilled about injections but could do them. I am also just interested in transdermal processes. Acutually, farm animals (where half of the good products derive from) now often have wormer and other products administered in this fashion so i was beginning to wonder.

 

[Enock]

Fina works decently via DMSO alot of people do it that way including myself. I'm in the same situation. MY 2 main reasons for wanting to steer clear of needles are because A. the impossibility of explaining them to others if they are seen. B. I don't want to fuck up and leave any kind of scars as is I've got enough of them by myself.

Someone posted an article on what AS would work via dmso based on their moleculer thickness. I really wish I saved it, it was before the board got revamped. Fina which I believe to be the one most used via DMSO actually wouldn't even absorb as well as some of the others he had listed there. I really wish I remembered how EQ faired. I've been considering trying it.

 

[T-ray2001]

Enock: WAs it this one?
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=5782&highlight=dmso

 

[Enock]

yes it was Thnx!

 

[Enock]

So from the looks of it, EQ would work even better than Fina via DMSO as far as successful transfer rate.

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

great help on thew thread

ive ordered some phlojel ultra (premixed) - thinking to try it - related patents for lecithin based organogels 5,654,337 and 5,837,289 indicate a fairly high level of penetration and delivery - initially used for ketoprofen (special K) delivery and pain management, seems to work for a large number of medications

As an example, ketoprofen is commonly administered orally in quantities of about 50-75 mg per dose for the desired efficacy. However, an equally effective dose of ketoprofen can be delivered by topical transdermal administration of only 3 mg.

molecular wieght obviously is important but they seem tio cover a very wide rage of applicable compounds including

Sex Hormones
Estogens
Estriol
Estradiol
Estrone
Testosterone
Methyltestosterone
Progesterone
Medroxyprogesterone
Hydroxyprogesterone
Norethindrone
Megesterol
Pituitary Hormones
Methylergonovine
Uterine Hormones
Dinoprostone

normal compositions of carrier vs agent range between 9:1 and 3:1 and seems to indicate that the VERY lage part of the agent is carred through the stratum corneum and tissue layers into the blood.

im definitely going to try something and will update - would love the benefit of anyone elses experience