Transdermal Application

[blut wump]

Before I start, this is just idle musing that crossed my mind while I was falling asleep. I've not looked into any aspect of it.

I was wondering what the uptake was likely to be from using gear as a lotion in small amounts. Testo-gels deliver about 5mg from a squeeze of the tube but what would you get from applying a ml of, say, some test prop at 50mg/ml to the skin.

With the current prices of raw hormone powders being so low and the fact that you can cut production corners due to a low need for sterility, I roughly estimate being able to make a quarter pint of 100mg/ml prop aftershave for less than $20, even with including BA and BB to help with solution and ongoing preservation. You could even add a scent of your choice and increase the BA to act as an astringent. It'd be cheaper than buying Old Spice.

There are social implications regarding allowing contact with your skin afterwards and accidentally driving women wild if they hug you too vigourously but...

 

[Ulter]

You're going to waste 90% of your gear. If you delivered 10% you'd be doing well. You have to have a delivery solution that is made for steroids.

 

[blut wump]

I guess 10% is a shade too low, even for an aftershave that not only makes you seem more manly but also makes you be more manly.

 

[mm107]

i believe primordial performace claims that there solution delivers 40% of the hormone into the skin under good conditions (shaven, etc)

i was thinking the same think blut.

lets say only 40 % of 250mg could be absorbed (test e) = 100mg/Test E absorbed

So since powders are so cheap why not double to dosage to 500mg/ml and then 40% of 500mg = 200mg. You could easily play with the numbers. I just dont know HOW cheap powders are domesticly so i havta do some reasearch.

But i would actually rather stick myself to make sure im getting 100% absorbion ya know....

but i would love to throw a multivitamin/ephedrine hcl/yohimbe hcl/green tea ETC into a morning shave and throw in on in the morning to wake the fuck up =]

 

[the-short-one]

test prop is cheap cheap.

I made a transdermal for a couple of people using 99% isopropol alcohol (just enough to disolve the test prop) and Emu oil. Granted - these are people who do not use injectable or oral steroids at all - and within 3-4 days they had more energy and complained of being 'sweaty' all the time. lol

I dosed one for a man at only 50mg/ml and another for an older woman at only 10mg/ml. They both gave me similar feedback (and they don't know each other) - so something was definitely happening...

The woman is still using it - 3 times a week. She says she doesn't feel tired in the mornings any more, and her aches and pains (stiffness associated with arthiritis) have eased a lot. The only complaint she has is that her skin is slightly oily and her sweat smells if she uses it more than 3 days a week. (rubs it on inside of wrists after shower.)

 

[Ulter]

test prop is cheap cheap.

I made a transdermal for a couple of people using 99% isopropol alcohol (just enough to disolve the test prop) and Emu oil. Granted - these are people who do not use injectable or oral steroids at all - and within 3-4 days they had more energy and complained of being 'sweaty' all the time. lol

I dosed one for a man at only 50mg/ml and another for an older woman at only 10mg/ml. They both gave me similar feedback (and they don't know each other) - so something was definitely happening...

The woman is still using it - 3 times a week. She says she doesn't feel tired in the mornings any more, and her aches and pains (stiffness associated with arthiritis) have eased a lot. The only complaint she has is that her skin is slightly oily and her sweat smells if she uses it more than 3 days a week. (rubs it on inside of wrists after shower.)

The Upjohn test gel for women delivers less than 1mg/day and gets the same results. Your solution is delivering about the same. Women are affected greatly by hormones. It only takes 1mcg of estradiol (estrogen) per day to make changes in mood, water retention, and fertility. She should not apply it anywhere but her legs. She will grow hair where she puts it eventually so she should put it on a spot she shaves anyway.

i believe primordial performace claims that there solution delivers 40% of the hormone into the skin under good conditions (shaven, etc)

That's a gross overstatement.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

The Upjohn test gel for women delivers less than 1mg/day and gets the same results. Your solution is delivering about the same. Women are affected greatly by hormones. It only takes 1mcg of estradiol per day to make changes in mood, water retention, and fertility.

what about for the dood that was using it and experiencing positive effects?

Seems kinda promising... but not in the high amounts that people prefer to cycle with though.

 

[mm107]

That's a gross overstatement.

maybe, ill be honest, im only retyping what i have read.

i still wouldnt use it for my gear tho, my epehdrine/yohimbe sure would.

 

[Ulter]

He is getting a little more than what a young male would make naturally. It will have some positive affect. But again, he's getting about the same as androgel for men.

 

[the-short-one]

He is getting a little more than what a young male would make naturally. It will have some positive affect. But again, he's getting about the same as androgel for men.

so - back of the knees for the woman? (she's in her 60s)


the man is 40 years old. His natty test production is down, anyway - so I figured even a little would make a difference...