GUARDIAN said:i actually try to overtrain when on gear. i find i have super human recovery ability.
Beachbum1546 said:You have a better chance of over training your joints and tendons than your muscles. If your joints and tendons are holding up, then kill it. Work your muscles as often as you can. Obviously, working biceps 7 times a week won't do you much good but you can certainly increase your training volume and frequency compared to being off. For example, while off I train biceps twice a week. Once directly with curls and etc and once indirectly from back exercises. While I'm on, I train biceps three times a week. Once a week indirectly from back and twice a week directly with curls and etc.
n1tro said:Curious what your overtraining split looks like. Mind posting it for me?
GUARDIAN said:ideally i would got with trying a double split with a 3 on and 1 off routine but i dont have time.
i have been a big proponent of a Doria Yates / Mentzer style of 1 set per exercise. I now only do this "off cycle". This is a 4 on 1 off.
On cycle I will go Chest/Bi's, Back & Tris & Calves, Shoulders & Forearms, Quads/Hams/Calves. I shoot for close to 20-25 sets per body part with everything to failure and alot of drop sets within. I may train 2 weeks in a row without a day off depending how I feel. Usually it is closer to once every 8 days.
n1tro said:I like your style. I think I went 21 days straight at one point. I can attribute that moslty to anadrol and tren. Although that was a couple years back.
GUARDIAN said:but u got eat like a monster with at least 2g of protein per lb. I notice below that or if cals are not high enuf i can feel the wear.
It is great that you started this thread.GUARDIAN said:ideally i would got with trying a double split with a 3 on and 1 off routine but i dont have time.
i have been a big proponent of a Doria Yates / Mentzer style of 1 set per exercise. I now only do this "off cycle". This is a 4 on 1 off.
On cycle I will go Chest/Bi's, Back & Tris & Calves, Shoulders & Forearms, Quads/Hams/Calves. I shoot for close to 20-25 sets per body part with everything to failure and alot of drop sets within. I may train 2 weeks in a row without a day off depending how I feel. Usually it is closer to once every 8 days.
Beachbum1546 said:You have a better chance of over training your joints and tendons than your muscles. If your joints and tendons are holding up, then kill it. Work your muscles as often as you can. Obviously, working biceps 7 times a week won't do you much good but you can certainly increase your training volume and frequency compared to being off. For example, while off I train biceps twice a week. Once directly with curls and etc and once indirectly from back exercises. While I'm on, I train biceps three times a week. Once a week indirectly from back and twice a week directly with curls and etc.
n1tro said:This is exactly the thing I worry about the most in the gym. The thought of pushing too hard in turn tearing a tendon and being out of commision. I stretch as much as I can, at least I try and make a habit of reminding myself to stretch and warm up parts of my body before getting into heavy movments, mostly related to shoulders and legs. I am still haunted by the sound of a friend of mine tearing his pectoral muscle.
n1tro said:When you are on gear what is the definition of "overtraining"? Is there such a thing?
JLowe02 said:one reason i like boxing and sprinting for cardio, as it strengthens tendons.
When im on cycle, i train like a madman. i've found that when you eat like a horse its very hard to overtrain. Bench, squats and deads i do once a week, but most iso work ill do twice, but i will kill myself in the gym every time. hard for me to drive home my arms will be so pumped.
n1tro said:When I am driving home for the gym if the cell rings, I cant even answer it. I need to get the hands free set up with my stereo, no way in hell i will have the movement to hold it to my ear.
JLowe02 said:lol i may be crazy but i love that feeling bro!
ALIN said:I think you can overtrain.
jagerbombme said:fucking knees and elbows are killing me lately. i think the masteron dryed me out. dropped that put some npp back in. can't even squat![]()
n1tro said:For the record I would let that ass in your avatar take a shit in my mouth. Just an FYI.

halfcenturian said:That's his WIFE you're talking about!!!![]()
halfcenturian said:That's his WIFE you're talking about!!!![]()
LoneTree said:It is great that you started this thread.
I would appreciate it if you exaplain your workout routine in more detail.
Over how many days do you finish 20-25 sets per body part? 5-6
How much time do you give between workout sessions for a particular muscle group (for example, biceps, triceps, deltoids)? For example, every day, every other day, every 3 days, (or every 8 days)? as little as 5 days and as much as 7
How many reps in a set?8-12 for my main sets and i shoot for at least 6 during the drop sets. however i will go as high as 12-15 when i am not worried so much about strength gains.
GUARDIAN said:ideally i would got with trying a double split with a 3 on and 1 off routine but i dont have time.
i have been a big proponent of a Doria Yates / Mentzer style of 1 set per exercise. I now only do this "off cycle". This is a 4 on 1 off.
On cycle I will go Chest/Bi's, Back & Tris & Calves, Shoulders & Forearms, Quads/Hams/Calves. I shoot for close to 20-25 sets per body part with everything to failure and alot of drop sets within. I may train 2 weeks in a row without a day off depending how I feel. Usually it is closer to once every 8 days.
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