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RU-486 - I ain't convinced.
People keep saying this will alleviate deca gyno symptoms.
I don't even think it's worth of mentioning.
1. Not available
2. Not proven. Nobody even knows if it really works and what the side effects are. Deca _isn't_ progesterone - it just binds to the progestin receptors. Who knows how it competes or by what mechanism and what effect RU-486 will have? Who's to say RU-486 won't even _Activate_ the receptors in males to some degree?
3. Side effects? People keep saying it will help with cortisol. Bullshit. It will raise your cortisol levels by a feedback mechanism, but will out-compete it at the receptors. Guess what happens when you come off it?
Your cortisol levels are sky high. Cushing's Syndrome by abortion pill, anyone? Who knows.
Personally, I wouldn't touch the shit with a ten foot pole until a bunch of you guinea pig types have tested it semi-long term (i.e. it's been used for a few years "in the fields").
People keep saying this will alleviate deca gyno symptoms.
I don't even think it's worth of mentioning.
1. Not available
2. Not proven. Nobody even knows if it really works and what the side effects are. Deca _isn't_ progesterone - it just binds to the progestin receptors. Who knows how it competes or by what mechanism and what effect RU-486 will have? Who's to say RU-486 won't even _Activate_ the receptors in males to some degree?
3. Side effects? People keep saying it will help with cortisol. Bullshit. It will raise your cortisol levels by a feedback mechanism, but will out-compete it at the receptors. Guess what happens when you come off it?
Your cortisol levels are sky high. Cushing's Syndrome by abortion pill, anyone? Who knows.
Personally, I wouldn't touch the shit with a ten foot pole until a bunch of you guinea pig types have tested it semi-long term (i.e. it's been used for a few years "in the fields").
Andy13 said:
LMAO!!!
MikeyLikesJuice
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must be alot of fake deca going around
Oxandrolone beats Primo hands down
Since this was mentionned in a Deca versus Test topic, i will give my 2 cents on this:
Primo at 600 mgr/week is overkill. Sure you gain more on it then when doing 400 mgr (we are not talking about stacks here), but what you gain more is FAT, which you will have too loose again.
Now take Ox: doing 80 mgr/day (560 mgr/week) i stay right now at 196 lbs (but this still can go up, it's too soon to tell).
So: 8 tabs of 10 mgr/day (price per tab was $0,40), equals $3,20/day and this for 10 weeks equals $224. You have to add your liver protector (Tyler's liver protector for sale at Anabolic Fitness, sorry but this is the best), 2 boxes at $35 gives $70 (so 3 a day, which is certainly enough in this case).
So total $314. The only draw back, the price of the Ox went up. So now 2 x 40 mgr tabs a day equals $5. For 70 days this is $350 + $70 for the Tyler's= $420
Furthermore Ox gives NOT one side. All you have to do is take your liver protection.
For the record, when doing 300 mgr Primo/week last year in januari, without liver protection my GOT was 63 (normally between 0-36), so in fact one should use a liver protection no mather what roid is taking.
So a 10 week cycle of 600 mgr Primo costs as Macro states $600 + $70 for your Tyler's protection. Also hair protection must be considered, meaning the price goes up more. So this Primo cycle costs around $700.
Who is saying Ox is expensive?
Since this was mentionned in a Deca versus Test topic, i will give my 2 cents on this:
Primo at 600 mgr/week is overkill. Sure you gain more on it then when doing 400 mgr (we are not talking about stacks here), but what you gain more is FAT, which you will have too loose again.
Now take Ox: doing 80 mgr/day (560 mgr/week) i stay right now at 196 lbs (but this still can go up, it's too soon to tell).
So: 8 tabs of 10 mgr/day (price per tab was $0,40), equals $3,20/day and this for 10 weeks equals $224. You have to add your liver protector (Tyler's liver protector for sale at Anabolic Fitness, sorry but this is the best), 2 boxes at $35 gives $70 (so 3 a day, which is certainly enough in this case).
So total $314. The only draw back, the price of the Ox went up. So now 2 x 40 mgr tabs a day equals $5. For 70 days this is $350 + $70 for the Tyler's= $420
Furthermore Ox gives NOT one side. All you have to do is take your liver protection.
For the record, when doing 300 mgr Primo/week last year in januari, without liver protection my GOT was 63 (normally between 0-36), so in fact one should use a liver protection no mather what roid is taking.
So a 10 week cycle of 600 mgr Primo costs as Macro states $600 + $70 for your Tyler's protection. Also hair protection must be considered, meaning the price goes up more. So this Primo cycle costs around $700.
Who is saying Ox is expensive?
Creatine without roids?
save your money and don't take anything then. Creatine alone and you will retain water which gives you the impression of muscle gains? The only good thing about it, is the strength increase. But it is hard on the kidneys. So use it for max 6 weeks, if you must.
save your money and don't take anything then. Creatine alone and you will retain water which gives you the impression of muscle gains? The only good thing about it, is the strength increase. But it is hard on the kidneys. So use it for max 6 weeks, if you must.
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