This Really Gets Me Mad !!! (gym Observation)

[Creepusmaximus]

I'll give a vote for the ball. I don't do much with a ball but it's hard as Hell to balance and lift weights. Give it a try and see what you think before you say it's dumb. It will work your core muscles etc. I do some training for balance so the ball is useful to me, on the other hand I do deads, good mornings, barbell rows, squats etc.

 

[ChinkNasty]

OMG, maybe he was improving his joint stabilization, balance and coordination!

mikeyboy, by your logic, I guess quite a few professional athletes are "fags" for doing this type of work. Maybe you can shout at them from your general admission seats that their training protocols are ineffective.

love it

 

[BlondBomber]

As much as I hate all normal people that go to gyms, hot chicks in ass pants not included, the ball has some uses. I do crunches on it sometimes like someone posted, but you can also do DB presses on it. DB presses on the ball is an exercise that was in one of Louie Simmon's old bench press tapes. He explains that it helps work the stabilization muscles and is a motion that can not be duplicated on a bench.
I would throw my support in Mikeyboy's corner though, because I doubt anyone he sees at his gym is a PLer trying to get his bench up. I wish I lived at a time when weight lifting was not popular. A time when it was something for "freaks" to do. Normal people, more specifically underdeveloped and ugly people clog all gyms that I go to.
Hang the mother fucking phone up! Stop trying to hit on the desk girl that talks to you because she is stuck there and can't be rude and tell you to fuck off. Go home and eat some fucking food so you don't look the same in 2 years, like you did when I moved back from college and you look the same.
Shit, I live in Southern California, so there have always been some hardcore gyms here. I wish death to Bally's and Frog's One (which by the way is a shit hole for being "rated #1). LA Fitness gets a passing grade though. Shit now I am pissed!

 

[dognutz]

The new "it" word in personal training is "Core", give me a break. If you are using weights on the ball or half whatever you are an idiot trainer asking for your client to get hurt. Trainers at 24 hours, Bally's etc live for the Ball and "Core" garbage so their clients dont exert themselves and make improvements and keep coming back for more.

Give me a break, 30 year old men with 5lb dumbells doing chest presses on a ball is ridiculous. My 7 year old can lift those weights. No way is this person working out.

 

[kimchee411]

I think the ball is good for doing crunches and stretching; that's about it. I really don't see how IT can stabilize YOU if you're trying to bulk up and you're lifting heavy weights. Could you imagine trying to bench 2 plates on that rubber kickball? I'd be wobbling all over the place.

 

[Royster]

i agree dognutz, other than for isolated examples, the use of the ball by personal trainers is stupid. Ive seen it myself, PTs having their clients do stupid things on balls or do some stupid postures to apparently work the stabilizing muscles. Go get yourself under 400 pounds on a bar, and tell me if you are working your stabilizers or not.
The truth is, despite how pathethic it sounds, is that the fitness industry is more interested in YOU comind back for more, than YOU making improvements. Its as simple as that, then the PTs make complex aerodynamic and neurological adaptive programs including "core" workouts with the stupid ball, and the use of the machines of the gym. Have you ever asked on of these clients what is their goal? I have, and you know what it is, to tone up, get in shape, look younger, in no freaking way they are looking to improve their core stabilization and dynamic " " (putting fancy technical word), and 99% of the time, the clients are thinking "what the fuck is he doing with me" when you put them in a ball.
Of course, PTs dont wanna give programs that actually lead to big and honest improvements, because

1) these programs are simple, hence the client would make use of the PTs for a month, and from then on he/she wouldnt need their full services no more.
2) These programs actually demand putting effort, from both sides. The PT's job is to make the client think he/she is training, when the truth is very much, the opposite.
3) It is a fashion. Paul Check has smartly marketed these balls so that every gym has them, and every gym has one resident expert which can even do the kamasutra on these balls.
4) Many times the client is confused, as his/her goals are what society dicatates, be healthier, look better, tone up. Do you think using the ball helps this?
5) It is a rehabilitation tool, so inmeadetely people think is good. Well, leg extensions (but the proper ones used by doctors, not the wannabe equipment in gyms) are rehabiltation tools, but they are pretty much useless in healthy individuals.

I rest my case, these balls should be reserved for isolated examples or used sparingly.

 

[Royster]

of course, im talking using these balls for average clients, by average PTs (who know as much about training as girl scouts). There are excellent PTs, as well as clients to whom these balls' use benefit, but they are one for every 100.

just to put a disclaimer, although I still expect to be flamed.

 

[H_T_]

i guess some people just love big, bouncy, colorful balls

 

[yomama]

i agree dognutz, other than for isolated examples, the use of the ball by personal trainers is stupid. Ive seen it myself, PTs having their clients do stupid things on balls or do some stupid postures to apparently work the stabilizing muscles. Go get yourself under 400 pounds on a bar, and tell me if you are working your stabilizers or not.
The truth is, despite how pathethic it sounds, is that the fitness industry is more interested in YOU comind back for more, than YOU making improvements. Its as simple as that, then the PTs make complex aerodynamic and neurological adaptive programs including "core" workouts with the stupid ball, and the use of the machines of the gym. Have you ever asked on of these clients what is their goal? I have, and you know what it is, to tone up, get in shape, look younger, in no freaking way they are looking to improve their core stabilization and dynamic " " (putting fancy technical word), and 99% of the time, the clients are thinking "what the fuck is he doing with me" when you put them in a ball.
Of course, PTs dont wanna give programs that actually lead to big and honest improvements, because

1) these programs are simple, hence the client would make use of the PTs for a month, and from then on he/she wouldnt need their full services no more.
2) These programs actually demand putting effort, from both sides. The PT's job is to make the client think he/she is training, when the truth is very much, the opposite.
3) It is a fashion. Paul Check has smartly marketed these balls so that every gym has them, and every gym has one resident expert which can even do the kamasutra on these balls.
4) Many times the client is confused, as his/her goals are what society dicatates, be healthier, look better, tone up. Do you think using the ball helps this?
5) It is a rehabilitation tool, so inmeadetely people think is good. Well, leg extensions (but the proper ones used by doctors, not the wannabe equipment in gyms) are rehabiltation tools, but they are pretty much useless in healthy individuals.

I rest my case, these balls should be reserved for isolated examples or used sparingly.

I couldnt have put it better myself. Karma coming your way!

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Shit, I just got hired as a personal trainer. I hope they don't make me do that shit 24/7.

A person should come back to you for training while making progress because your experience can help them to improve faster than they could by themselves many times.

I don't want guy's walking by going what the fuck is he making that girl do on that ball? Hope not. But hey, if I get paid what I'm being told I will I'm gonna have to put up with it. I'll figure out a way to sneak in some real exercises though, somehow haha.