This old house. It's assraping our savings

[RottenWillow]

Never spend money on discretionary remodeling before you're absolutely certain the casa doesn't need critical repairs. Thank God we have cash from the sale of the Vette, because this old crap heap needs to be completely rewired. It's looks great now, but it's ready to light itself on fire with dogshite wiring.

This joint is 45 years old and has been added onto twice. Two sets of new construction apparently just pigtailed onto the existing service, which is a half-assed way of doing it. What started out as a 1400 sq/ft ranch is now a fairly sprawling 2100 sq/ft home. We knew the wiring was cockeyed when we bought it from my mother's brokerage/RE investment company, but didn't appreciate the fact that that if we planned to stay here for more than a few years it'd really need to be rewired. Five years ago my father (the electrical engineer) had it met code....barely. Now it's just crap.

So we could pay a massive crapload of money and get it down quickly, or have my father supervise and my husband and me pull all the wire which would be a PITFA and take forever. So the choices are 1)get fucked in the ass or 2)get fucked in the ear.

 

[shirlene29]

I guess you're gonna get stuck repairing it...

were lucky...our house started out 800 sq ft and was added onto once to make it 2500-ish sq ft...also sprawling the original part of the house is 70 yrs old.

the old panel was completely rewired and serves as a sub panel to the new panel...

theres only once place in the house I kind of frown at and that were the third bathroom gfi is tied into the bedroom next to it...thats not code


its not like even if you tried the sell the place you wouldnt likely get boned with rewiring it anyway.
have you looked into if youre going to do it yourself rewiring via behind like the baseboard or crown moulding? with protective plates placed over the studs?
they use that method on historical homes to not risk damaging plaster

 

[nydj66]

Wiring is not the least bit complicated. But it is time consuming and a PITFA.

 

[miplank]

I knew shirl would be in here with her toolbelt on

 

[shirlene29]

its the only correct lesbian thing to do

 

[RottenWillow]

Wiring is not the least bit complicated. But it is time consuming and a PITFA.

Sure it's easy, but it's fucking tedious as hell.

 

[RottenWillow]

I guess you're gonna get stuck repairing it...

were lucky...our house started out 800 sq ft and was added onto once to make it 2500-ish sq ft...also sprawling the original part of the house is 70 yrs old.

the old panel was completely rewired and serves as a sub panel to the new panel...

theres only once place in the house I kind of frown at and that were the third bathroom gfi is tied into the bedroom next to it...thats not code


its not like even if you tried the sell the place you wouldnt likely get boned with rewiring it anyway.
have you looked into if youre going to do it yourself rewiring via behind like the baseboard or crown moulding? with protective plates placed over the studs?
they use that method on historical homes to not risk damaging plaster

Yeah I think this joint is actually about 2500 as well. The deed description cannot be accurate. I wonder if the previous owner purposely misrepresented it to try to avoid the bump in tax valuation. The added rec room alone is 500 sq/ft and then there's the two new bedrooms, full bath, and back hall.


Never even heard of running wire behind baseboards. That meets code?


The most complicated issue here is gonna be how to implement a house equivalent of an automotive rolling restoration. Gutting and rebuilding bathrooms one at a time is easy when you have two other full baths in the house. Every day though we'll have to make sure we don't start a rewiring piece we're not totally prepared to finish that day.

 

[shirlene29]

yeah, it meets code...google some old house wiring restoration...if i still had the fine home building article on it I'd upload it

I did it a few years ago (quite a few now) on my aparentment building..it had to meet code and hud because of the number of apartments (commercial)

 

[Mr. dB]

45 years? It doesn't have aluminum wiring does it? They did a lot of that shit in the '50s and '60s.

 

[nydj66]

yeah, it meets code...google some old house wiring restoration...if i still had the fine home building article on it I'd upload it

I did it a few years ago (quite a few now) on my aparentment building..it had to meet code and hud because of the number of apartments (commercial)

Did you cut the plaster behind the baseboard to fish the wires up to the outlets? Or just place the outlets in the baseboard like in some older houses?

 

[shirlene29]

cut the plaster behind the baseboards...though some it was missing plaster behind as well...

then fished up to outlets
then metal plates are placed over the studs to prevent putting a nail through the new wiring...

a hard plastic channel can be run up the stud but we just pulled it tight and stapled it at the bottom as best we could


there is also a way of routering a channel in the baseboard but that uses a specific product

 

[billfred]

I knew shirl would be in here with her toolbelt on

lolz

 

[bigtravis]

Never spend money on discretionary remodeling before you're absolutely certain the casa doesn't need critical repairs. Thank God we have cash from the sale of the Vette, because this old crap heap needs to be completely rewired. It's looks great now, but it's ready to light itself on fire with dogshite wiring.

This joint is 45 years old and has been added onto twice. Two sets of new construction apparently just pigtailed onto the existing service, which is a half-assed way of doing it. What started out as a 1400 sq/ft ranch is now a fairly sprawling 2100 sq/ft home. We knew the wiring was cockeyed when we bought it from my mother's brokerage/RE investment company, but didn't appreciate the fact that that if we planned to stay here for more than a few years it'd really need to be rewired. Five years ago my father (the electrical engineer) had it met code....barely. Now it's just crap.

So we could pay a massive crapload of money and get it down quickly, or have my father supervise and my husband and me pull all the wire which would be a PITFA and take forever. So the choices are 1)get fucked in the ass or 2)get fucked in the ear.

move into the old cabin in N.C.

 

[shirlene29]

lolz

hey...it was tuff buckling it under the belly!

 

[RottenWillow]

I'm thinking the worst part of this is gonna be the crawlspace attic. It's revolting. Four decades of filth up there. I guess we should strip out and upgrade the insulation while we're up there.

 

[shirlene29]

tyvec suits...buy some...or itch for a week

 

[RottenWillow]

tyvec suits...buy some...or itch for a week

oh hell no. You don't have to tell me. Been there, scratched that.

 

[billfred]

Anyone else get excited when they saw RW making a post about ass raping?

 

[PICK3]

Anyone else get excited when they saw RW making a post about ass raping?

It gained my attention

btw, does this mean no Nissan Roadster in the immediate future

 

[RottenWillow]

Well we just decided to make ourselves comfortable up there. We started laying down 1" pressboard as flooring as we go.

We vacuumed the dust and cobwebs above us on the rafters so the air is pretty decent. Now we can just lay there and work on tracing the rats-nest of wiring before we start cutting and pulling anything. We just decided to kill all the power for the entire new end of the house which includes two bedrooms, a large rec room, a full bath and a hallway. All the wiring for those rooms will need to be run directly from the new electrical panel, rather than pigtailed in like we found it. Between the two of us we've already got like 16 labor hours put in and nothing's really been accomplished yet.

This is gonna be a fricking bear.

 

[javaguru]

True, you shouldn't spend much on a starter house in the form of improvements....biggest mistake new home buyers make.

Don't worry, the fed is trying to increase the value of casa de RW through quantitative easing....not an actual increase in value but an inflationary increase in value.

 

[ortiz34]

HA Obama will fix it
bet you voted for him!
Fat kids in america will fix it for free mcdonalds!

 

[RottenWillow]

True, you shouldn't spend much on a starter house in the form of improvements....biggest mistake new home buyers make.

Don't worry, the fed is trying to increase the value of casa de RW through quantitative easing....not an actual increase in value but an inflationary increase in value.

"starter home" suggests it's either not big or nice enough for us to want to stay here a long time, neither of which is the case. This month is 5 years we've been here. We've got a 3ac lot and a house that's more than big enough for us. It's pretty awesome.