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Thinking of running my first cycle...

Ceros

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So, I'm thinking of running my first cycle. I've been reading around and was thinking of either something like H-Drol or Beastdrol and then running nolva as PCT, and obvsiously Milk Thistle throughout.

I am:
21 yr
6' 1"
~210 when cut, ~220 when bulked.

I've been lifting for about 3 years and have made great gains from my days of being ~150lb, but I can't seem to get past this barrier of 220 BW and the lifts that I have also. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Here's some pics of me:

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Beastdrol is a tremendous product, make sure you increase your water intake if you run it...and I take taurine when on Beast to help with high blood pressure......

~EZ
 
^ Yea. Right now I'm drinking 5 liters per day and my diet is pretty damn clean, about to get way cleaner, because I just ordered a food scale. My diet isn't really calculated but I eat about 5 times per day in addition to a preworkout snack of protein, my preworkout shake, my postworkout shake, and bedtime slow digesting protein shake.

What kind of gains could I be expecting from a cycle of this?
 
^ Yea. Right now I'm drinking 5 liters per day and my diet is pretty damn clean, about to get way cleaner, because I just ordered a food scale. My diet isn't really calculated but I eat about 5 times per day in addition to a preworkout snack of protein, my preworkout shake, my postworkout shake, and bedtime slow digesting protein shake.

What kind of gains could I be expecting from a cycle of this?[/QUOTE]

That will be determined by the user....what dose are you running?

~EZ
 
I would pick Beastdrol also,you will get solid ,clean,dry gains, watch your BP ,and listen to EZE he's knows what he's talking about!
 
Alright, thanks for the info guess. I'll be sure to take Taurine with it for sure. Not sure, what kind of dosage would you recommend?

I'm really new to this, so don't be too hard on me, but how does this sound:

cycle : cycle assist + beastdrol + milk thistle + taurine ( not sure on dosing :/ )
PCT : Nolva or Clomid? + some sort of natural test booster

This is my first cycle again, so I've been reading up alot, not sure which sites to buy from are legit though either. :/
 
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bump.... anyone? what kind of dosages should I be looking at for all of this?

It says for a first time user to take 20mg per day. How long should I cycle it? and what should I do for proper PCT? letro? nolva?

it has 90caps of 10mg ea. so if I do 20mg daily ( recommended dosage ) that'd run me 6 weeks and 3 days. But it doesn't recommend going over 6 weeks? so should I just run it 6 weeks and 3 days or up the dosage at some point? just stop a little short?

CYCLE - 6 weeks:
beastrol - 20mg, 10mg x 2
3 milk thistle caps - spaced evenly throughout day
taurine ( not sure on dosage )
cycle assist - 4 pills 2 times daily, 8-12hr apart


PCT - ? weeks
nolva? clomid? letro?
natural test booster?

- I appreciate all the help. I'm really a noob when it comes to this. I will for sure post my workouts, diet, and pics once I get my cycle going ! :D Can't WAIT to see the results!
 
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I've never run Beast alone so I'm not 100% sure on this answer, but from my experience you can't go wrong with Forma, Post Cycle and Unleashed....may be more than needed but I'd rather have too much PCT than too little...

~EZ
 
don't run it 6 weeks.. stick to 4 weeks.. reason being that once you cross that 4-5 week barrier you will take longer to recover.. if you keep it 4 weeks or less you won't have to worry about recovery on beastdrol.

so consider running it like this

weeks 1-4 20-30mg per day.. adjust your dosage by ear meaning see how you feel on 20mg.. then go to 30mg.. if you feel okay stick with it.. otherwise drop to 20mg. split dosages

PCT you do not need nolva or clomid if you keep it 4 weeks. there is a great natty supp on my signature that would work for your PCT.. pick one and run the bottle. you will be fine.

if you do decide to go 6 weeks then you will need a stronger PCT so that is why i recommend staying 4 weeks only.
 
Alright. So...taking this into consideration, how does this look:

CYCLE - 4 weeks:
beastrol - 20mg, 10mg x 2 or maybe 30mg ( depending on feeling )
3 milk thistle caps - spaced evenly throughout day
taurine ( not sure on dosage )
cycle assist - 4 pills 2 times daily, 8-12hr apart


PCT - ?# of weeks?
recommendations? nat test booster and E blockeR?

maybe run this for PCT ? http://www.ironmaglabs.com/product-list/e-control-rx/
 
bump. Can anyone help me with how much PCT to take? and should I just take that one I posted or in addition to Natural Test Booster?
 
Alright. Well, it looks like I'm good to go then. I'll just buy that stuff and get it going. Thanks for all the help!
 
Ha, I know, right?!

So I'm thinking this:
CYCLE - 4 weeks:
beastrol - 20mg, 10mg x 2 or maybe 30mg ( depending on feeling )
3 milk thistle caps - spaced evenly throughout day
taurine ( not sure on dosage )
cycle assist - 4 pills 2 times daily, 8-12hr apart ( as recommended )


PCT -
Post Cycle and Unleashed
 
Think i might try it myself, its so cheap and so good gains, why isnt this more popular i dont get it?

People are reluctant to use new things....times must (and always do) change...

~EZ
 
For what it's worth, I gained around 8 lbs with beastdrol. But my strength was through the roof. Keep a good diet after and you'll be set bro.
 
Alright, so let me get this straight, I don't need a E Blocker in PCT at all?! wow this is gonna be hella cheap.

Should I still run Cycle Support?
 
Im no expert and not sure about beastdrol PCT but a good natural test booster
 
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at 220 lbs def run the full bottle 30 mgs ed 4 weeks for pct oct products you can't go worng with hcgenerate+psytoserms my sex drive on the 2 is equal to on high dose test... Ridiculous!
 
Ahhh...not sure what PCT to run now, been told so many! lol.

so...options are:
- HCGenerate+psytoserms
- Allmax TribX 90
- the natty test booster in "stevesmi" 's sig ( I think he's referring to the one called "E Control" not sure, :/ but in which case idk, cause I guess I don't need an E Blocker on PCT for this product? )
- POST CYCLE/Unleashed
- Forma, Post Cycle and Unleashed


No E Blocker needed? right? just run some liver support and natty test booster for pct?
 
Ive looked into it. Forma, post cycle, and unleashed would be the best; cover all the bases, but the forma isnt needed. Some Trib wouldnt hurt either, someone said TribX 90 is about equal to 125mg test for results. (not sure how much they took)
 
So, something like this:

Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo

( hope I'm not breaking any rules... :/ )

and then maybe some trib? Also I've been reading and many postings are saying to also add Sustain.



We have tons of options now to run PCT each one is adjustable depending on the Strength of the cycle and the length to take into consideration that Beastdrol is on the low end of a short cycle,so all you need is Unleashed,Forma Stanazol or sub that with psytoserms 247
 
Are you kidding me??? I have heard 8 different versions of what to do in this thread. For the love of god get on the same page people. Or at least some one give a good explanation of what is going on.


2. No 90% of the time a Ai is not needed duing a cycle of beastdrol however estrogen rebound is common after a cycle of beastdrol.

Beastdrol is described as a cross between anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of anadrol. anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position.(1) Thus making this steroid double methylated oral masterone. and hard on the liver. So some simple kid shit milk thisle is not going to cut it. For the record Milk thisle down regulates the androgen receptor anyway IMO its worthless unless combined with something that up regulated the androgen receptor(2).

This would explain why WAY before your time and most peoples time before it was coined the name Superdrol it was almost always called methyl methasterone by its original creators and scientist of the old steroid nation lol. Later its name ( like always) was shortened to methasteron and then when it was first produced by the very first "supplement company" ever it finally got its name superdrol.


The drug can not convert to estrogen however estrogen rebound is common after a cycle of beastdrol and androgen receptor cross over is not unheard of during the cycle (3) . For these reasons its a must one run a AI after a cycle of beastdrol as well as something with serm like effects. Onl a serm can block receptor cross over and a good suicidal aromatase inhibitor is best during pct over tyoe 2 Ai's which are known to reduce IGF levels and negatively effect cholesterol (4).

Beastdrol is a harsh drug and effects much more then just the liver. Reports of noise bleeds, back pumps, high blood pressure and or cholesterol are all over the net and backed up even more so by studies. So again a simple milk thistle used for on cycle support is not the best choice.

N@guard is the on cycle support of choice because it covers everything from cholesterol support to liver, Kidneys, a daily vitamin and even a androgen receptor up regulator too.

When dealing with your health and or your recovery if you have to ask " is it really needed" well then you got no business taking steroids at all. Do it the best way you can or don't do it at all. When it comes to the use of steroids if you are not the kind of person who says "better safe then sorry" but rather the kind of person who says " OOO man do I really need it?" in the hopes to save a buck.. Well get the hell out of the steroids hobby before you fuck your self all up..


More then half the people on any forum will tell you what you want to hear if that is the kind of person you are. Very few will stop and shoot str8 and tell you " Dont fuck your self' do it right. Even less will explain them selves and take the time to show you they know wtf they are talking about. I happen to be the creator of many of the products in question in this thread.

Do as you please but remember do not come crying to me or anyone else when your all fucked up with speed bags for tits or a liver that looks like hunk of mack truck tire on the side of the highway 3 months from now. You will have no one to blame but you and your own cheap ass.

(1)Methasterone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(2)Milk Thistle – good for the liver, bad for androgen receptors. Have ti post this one - Need To Build Muscle
(3)http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/receptor-cross-over-710073.html
4.Needtogetaas does suicidal aromatase inhibitor Exemestane,Aromasin. Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog
 
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