The Vick Case

[javaguru]

thanks man.

People are getting too damn emotional about this.

I suggest anyone who thinks that Vick should go to prison, spend a day at a cattle slaughterhouse.

Should everyone who is involved in that, essentially anyone who eats meat, be put in prison?

They don't kill cattled based on what is most human, they kill them based on what is most cost effective and effecient. Many cattled are skinned while their heart is still beating.

Borly, if I walked out my door right now and punched the first person I saw in the face and they chose to go to the hospital, that is an F2 in Ohio...5+ years in a state prison....doesn't matter if it was only a black eye. You live in a highly regulated society.... Sentences are based on the perceived harm someone presents to society, it's all about intent. For example, if you accidently run over someone in your car and kill them you can expect 3-5 years for vehicular manslaughter. If you intentionally run them down and kill them you'll get a lethal injection. Hunter's don't intend the animals to suffer....Vick tortured the animals in an ongoing fashion that showed he is a psychopath....


psy·cho·path (sī'kə-pāth') Pronunciation Key
n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.

 

[Lestat]

Borly, if I walked out my door right now and punched the first person I saw in the face and they chose to go to the hospital, that is an F2 in Ohio...5+ years in a state prison....doesn't matter if it was only a black eye. You live in a highly regulated society.... Sentences are based on the perceived harm someone presents to society, it's all about intent. For example, if you accidently run over someone in your car and kill them you can expect 3-5 years for vehicular manslaughter. If you intentionally run them down and kill them you'll get a lethal injection. Hunter's don't intend the animals to suffer....Vick tortured the animals in an ongoing fashion that showed he is a psychopath....


psy·cho·path (sī'kə-pāth') Pronunciation Key
n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.

You think that his behavior shows hes a psychopath, just as I think someone who prays to Jesus is delusional. Its a subective opinion. He didn't think there was too much wrong with it. I think its wrong, but not nearly such a big deal. Not as bad as assault on another person or accidentally taking someone's life.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

No living thing is harmed when I praise GOD for the many gifts HE'S bestowed upon me.
Can you say the same of Michael Vick?
You're a total ass to compare the two.
Again - fuck off you dog hater!
I never claimed to be a good Christian - just a forgiven one!

 

[Phaded]

nice of lestat to bring religion in this..

 

[javaguru]

You think that his behavior shows hes a psychopath, just as I think someone who prays to Jesus is delusional. Its a subective opinion. He didn't think there was too much wrong with it. I think its wrong, but not nearly such a big deal. Not as bad as assault on another person or accidentally taking someone's life.

I think the average person would have remorse over the acts he performed, being a sociopath is about the lack of remorse. Ongoing voluntary behavior shows a lack of remorse. He tortured and killed animals out of convenience; With his resources he could have acquired the drugs vets use to put down animals.

 

[jestro]

Lestats line of reasoning is very flawed. Does Vick have to abuse BM's kids to go to jail? Should the only jailable offense be the harming of another human being?
Stat, come on now, use the nogin.

 

[jh1]

He didn't think there was too much wrong with it.

How the fuck do you know what he thought?






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[heatherrae]

I think the average person would have remorse over the acts he performed, being a sociopath is about the lack of remorse. Ongoing voluntary behavior shows a lack of remorse. He tortured and killed animals out of convenience; With his resources he could have acquired the drugs vets use to put down animals.

Or not engaged in the sport at all.

Lestat, you are like a damn broken record sometimes. It is so annoying. WTF does religion have to do with this?

It isn't normal to feel no empathy for a tortured and dying dog. What those people do is definitely lacking in empathy. They deserve to be punished for it.

 

[layinback]

I think the average person would have remorse over the acts he performed, being a sociopath is about the lack of remorse. Ongoing voluntary behavior shows a lack of remorse. He tortured and killed animals out of convenience; With his resources he could have acquired the drugs vets use to put down animals.

i always appreciate lestats opinion and i believe him to be intelligent and certainly at times provocative, but this evening he is check mated.

 

[jh1]

i always appreciate lestats opinion and i believe him to be intelligent and certainly at times provocative, but this evening he is check mated.

That occured here:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/7577745-post1.html