The Vick Case

[mountain muscle]

even good bros make mistakes sometimes man

Yeah trying to profit off of torturing and murdering animals was a "mistake".

Because nfl contracts don't pay that well and he needed to find some other revenue.

 

[Phaded]

Vick is a good bro.

interesting

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

an interesting point about pit bull's not that I'm condoning fighting but weren't pit bulls bread to dog fight.. dogs are at their happiest when they are doing what they were born to do..

so honestly its kind of a weird situation.. i watched the special on hbo about what they do to losing dogs and how they steal peoples non-fighting pits from their back yards and throw em in the ring with fighters and they just get demolished and tossed back on the street..

i pretty much broke down and cried when i saw how inhumane these pits were treated..

in a perfect world i wouldn't have a problem with pitbull fighting as its what they were born to do..

A pitbull is no more a fighter than any other breed of dog before humans get to them.

 

[Phaded]

A pitbull is no more a fighter than any other breed of dog before humans get to them.

interesting .. i just say such because i've read inner city pitbull terrier was bread to fight for fighting.. in the west or whatever pitbull terriers were bread to latch on to the noses of bulls when they were chasing after their master or whatever..

heres an interesting point for you.. i have 2 dachshunds.. dachshunds were bread to go into holes and capture vermin.. I've never taught my dogs to do this but whenever my dog sees a rat hole or a mole trail he goes nuts and has the happiest time of his life.

 

[digimon7068]

A pitbull is no more a fighter than any other breed of dog before humans get to them.

the pitbull didn't even exist until humans "manufactured" them. . .and they were specifically bred for that purpose. . .and no other. . .

Originally bred from bull-and-terrier crosses brought to America from England and Ireland in the 1800s, they were popular in emerging cities for the sport of dog fighting. As the country grew, many dogs traveled with settlers to new homesteads where they were sometimes used as working dogs on farms. When bred for fighting, the breeder would look for strength, and gameness: from its bulldog and terrier ancestors it inherited the instincts to never give up and to bite down and never let go. A breeder also knew that a dog like this could be very dangerous to people and difficult to control if it were a man-biter, so he would look for the crucial trait of non-aggression towards humans. Any fighting dog that showed aggression towards its owner or handler would be killed immediately. This created a line of strong dogs that, while being dog aggressive, would not turn on their owners. In the late 1800s to early 1900s, two clubs were formed for the specific purpose of registering APBTs: the United Kennel Club and the American Dog Breeder's Association. The first dog registered by the UKC was the founder's pit bull, Ringer. After dog fighting was made illegal in the United States, many dog owners wanted to legitimize the breed and distance it from its fighting roots. The name "Staffordshire Terrier" was adopted by some owners and was recognized by the American Kennel Club in 1936. Later, the word "American" was added to reduce confusion with its smaller British cousin, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Not all breeders, however, agreed with the standard adopted by the AKC, and continued to use the name APBT for their lines. Much confusion still remains in regards to the APBT, the AST, and the SBT. Once an extremely popular family dog in the United States (in fact, the dog in the Our Gang movies was an APBT), the American Pit Bull Terrier's popularity began to decline in the United States following World War II in favor of other breeds. Pit bulls have been used for a variety of things from police to farm work. They have an excellent sense of smell and make good cattle dogs because they are a "tough" breed (can take being kicked by cattle and bounce right back up.)

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

i bet some people would think you are an animal for that, I don't see what the big deal is, it was what was best for the family and the dog.

Many would although it's still not the same as the Vick deal. The dog attacked a kid and should be put down, humanely, not excessively tortured, mutilated, then left for dead in someone's yard after losing an illegal dogfight that it was bred or stolen for by people to make money off of.
Big difference between the two. Dog fighting is for third world countries, if at all. Has no place in a civilized society. Uncivil behavior needs to be purged before it spreads. It's doubtful Vick will even learn his lesson from prison time though.

 

[freakazoid]

depends on the severity of the crime, a speeding ticket doesn't get a suspension.

a bar fight might get you a game or two suspension.

federal charges like vick's.... a year at least.

sorry old man,sinse this is a no win conversation everyone take thier opinions and hope for the best outcome that suits you

 

[Lestat]

ok Vick definitely engaged in bad bro behavior, for sure.

 

[Smurfy]

so have they sent Vick to the gas chamber yet?

 

[Lestat]

so have they sent Vick to the gas chamber yet?

loL!!