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The Vick Case

Lestat said:
Once again I am shocked by not only our country, but the people of EF.

Do you people here really think Vick did something so heinous he needs to spend time in Prison?

How many of you are hunters? How many of you eat beef? How many of you setup mouse traps?

What Vick did is WRONG. I am NOT an advocate for the legalization of dog fighting. I support laws that enforce the human treatment of animals.

BUT, I am sick of the double standard. Vick is being made an example of.

He should have his breeder license revoked. He should NEVER be allowed to sell dogs. He shouldn't be able to own more than 2 or so dogs at a time.

But to serve HARD time for his crime? Who exactly are the victims?

I've been hunting before, and luckily I've never killed while on a hunt myself, but I went on 2 hunts and learned quickly that it was NOT my thing.

HOWEVER, it is perfectly legal! You can shoot a deer, wounding it, having it limp through a forest in pain, and die over the course of a few days, but that is legal!

You can go get a job at a slaughter house, where you run a bolt into a cow's brain all day long and get PAID for it.

Jewish people can cut the foreskin from a living 8 day old baby with NO pain medication, and that is legal, protected, and CELEBRATED.

But Vick can't kill his own animals, on his OWN property, without going to prison?

No one else sees any problem with this? I kill animals near daily. Yesterday I sprayed some flies with insecticide and watched them fly disorented and twitch until they died. I also used my foot to smash a living spider until it died. Will I be thrown in prison for that one day as well just because a bunch of people think its mean and inhumane?

Seriously. Vick is a fool for being involved in this at all and should have some penalty, but if an attempted child molester can get probation, why can't Vick?
honestly I dont give a crap what happens to that guy. he doesnt deserve respect in any way shape or form. he's a piece of garbage. if they said the penalty was capital punishment, id be fine with that too. fuck vick. do you really care about that guy? you shoudnt
 
and lol @ comparing him to a child molester. those people should be killed too. truth is, the penalties are not harsh enough in this country.
 
rudeboyja said:
Apparently the big deal was the $$$ involved. But I wonder if this was cock fighting & the same loot was on the table would the feds have come in??

Also I don't think in his wildest dreams did he ever imagine even if he got caught would he get any jail time.


Another reason he should, if he thought he could get away with it (most likely because of how famous he is).
 
SublimeZM said:
people are more important than animals.

simple as that.

animals being protected by the constition and our laws is just one step closer to everyone being completely fucked and having the world not worth living in


People as uncivilized as Vick might as well be animals.
 
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hanselthecaretaker said:
Not much different than the therapy that child molestors "need." Whether torturing animals or molesting kids, there's something wrong with their brains. All the therapy in the world won't prevent them from doing it again.
I remember almost every single time they do profiling of serial killers or molesters on Discovery or History (forgot which one), almost always they started with torturing animals when they were kids and teenagers
 
Smurfy said:
and lol @ comparing him to a child molester. those people should be killed too. truth is, the penalties are not harsh enough in this country.


They're both sick in the head for slightly different reasons.
 
Yes I do care about Michael Vick.

If one person's rights can be dismissed because of an emotional arguement (poor doggies) then ANYONE's could. Like I said, I'd defend any of you here on EF as well.

I wonder how many of you would approve of the death penalty for electrocuting dogs?
 
Way to blow it out of proportion there Lestat. It's been said a number of times what the charges are, but you focus on the one that got him caught and what the media has focused on. Well done.
 
foreigngirl said:
I remember almost every single time they do profiling of serial killers or molesters on Discovery or History (forgot which one), almost always they started with torturing animals when they were kids and teenagers


I think a lot of kids (especially in rural areas) at a young age kill a small animal, or hurt them to see what happens, but the difference is in how they feel afterwards, seeing how the animal reacts. Normal, civilized people should eventually react with remorse or shame for doing something they now know is senseless and cruel. People who are a few clicks off the beaten path get excitement from it, and/or a false sense of empowerment to compensate for their own deficiencies, whether they understand it or not. Hence the label of "sick". Michael Vick seems to fit this latter category.
 
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