The Ten Biggest Frauds In Bodybuilding

[sk*]

i never said mag 10 is stronger than aas did i? hell i dont even use it because i prefer the real deal as well. if you dont think it is possible to put on 7 lbs of lbm on a mag 10 cycle then fine, everyone has their opinion and their preferences. all im asking is how is TC and biotest frauds?

please can we get to the point?

It is not possible to put on 7lbs of lbm on a cycle of "mag10" in 20weeks, forget 2!

I have used the andro products from ast-ss, same ingridients ... results? Some strength, no significant size.

BTW, I don't know who TC is (I'll let nelson answer that), and really don't care all that much. My quarell is with you, since you made such a statement which is undoubtly false ... and any single person who has used steroids will be able to tell you.

This isn't some magazine with a bunch of newbies. Most of us here have gone through that phase and been tricked by you guys.

-sk

 

[Dial_tone]

It is not possible to put on 7lbs of lbm on a cycle of "mag10" in 20weeks, forget 2!

-sk

You can easily put 7lbs of lbm on a mag10 cycle....it just won't be because of the mag10.

 

[BigAndy69]

i think there is a few people here on this board that need some work on their reading comprehension.

1-the fact is that nelson called TC a fraud. yet no one has come up with an argument in favor of this, or why it is true. instead there is name calling and childish remarks. please someone tell me how TC is a fraud? nelson please feel free to elaborate, since you know so much about biotest.

A: He purposely sells supplements that are dangerous (Mag-10, T-
2) and bogus (Myostatin?!?!? Come ON!!!! Methoxy 7?). His magazine claims to be hardcore but it's just a vehicle to pimp his overpriced supplements. Ever tried Drive? Great supp I will admit, taste like absolute shit. Tim patterson says it's creamy and delicious...that was the biggest bullshit line I've ever heard. Tastes like orange sawdust.

2-what other supplement company offers a 100% money back guarantee on all of their supplements. if you are not satisfied for any reason with your purchase, you send it back and the money is returned to you.

A: Have you tried to return something? It means nothing most people don't bother anyway.

3-as far as the myostat i dont know much about it except that it hasnt gone over real well. however like i just stated you can get your money back if you were not happy with it. how does that make them frauds?

A: See above

4-nothing has happened good on t-mag in two years? well what about the addition of CT? he has written many articles as well as moderating his own forum. what about the various articles written by j.b., lonnie lowery, ian king, and chad waterbury? oh dont let me forget coach john davies and his forum as well as don alessi.

A: Sure.

5-bad steroid advice? let me guess your info that we can all get our hands on if we just purchase your book has better info than bill roberts and cy wilson offer for free?

nelson are you also saying that bill roberts and cy wilson do not know what they are talking about in regards to aas usage?

A: Cy Wilson is a moron. My mother knows more about proper AS use. Bill Roberts should put down his books and experiment a little. Not all theory is accurate. You want good advice, these boards are good, animal's board and anabolicfitness are great.

6- it seems to me that your personal situation with tc is clouding your judgement, in regards to their services being offered.

A: Possibly, but he has some good points.

 

[P-DOG]

purposely sells supps that are dangerous?

what are you talking about? we all know that supps have possible side effects that is up to the user to choose to do the research and make the decision.

drive tastes bad?

are you referring to power drive? tastes pretty good to me especially mixed in soda water.

please tell me what is wrong with cy and bills advice? give some examples please dont just sling dirt.

why is it that people think that a product has to be illegal to be effective? we all know that a good eca is as effective as clen but we still buy clen dont we?

how could someone say ive tried other andro products and they didnt work so mag-10 cant work either? come on lets get some sound arguments.

i think there is some serious closed mindednes being shown on this forum. i too am skeptical of most supps but i have found that biotest makes quality shit, not to mention it is 100% refundable.

i still dont see how TC is a fraud.

 

[sk*]

how could someone say ive tried other andro products and they didnt work so mag-10 cant work either? come on lets get some sound arguments.

Because it's the same ingridients.

If I take one type of ephedrine product and it raises my blood pressure, it is obvious that the next ephedra product will do the same.

-sk

 

[Transporter]

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Ten Biggest Frauds In Bodybuilding

You're the idiot who made the statement that it is an unhealthy diet.......if that's the case, my health would have declined in the past year and a half instead of improved despite the weight loss (ie heart valve problems with phen-fen). And going on someone elses point, give us an example of a better diet and we'll look into it......you could always go with the shameless PF plug ALL MRP diet

And what documentation do I need? More than the stupid one line statement you gave. Look, you may have some gear knowledge, but even the morons at Biotest didn't have you write about diet subjects

well u must know your shit cause u allowed yourself to gain 130 lbs of fat.
very impressive. and come on guy now u are acting as a diet expert.

lol

 

[Fonz]

LOL....can't believe I missed this thread...

There are a lot of pieces of #$%!! in our BB'ing community, but my #1 Pick has got to be the retards from T-mag.

I'm sorry, but those guys take the cake.

Even though I seriously think Phillips and Weider sell inferior and overpriced products....they still give a bit back to the BB'ing community. Sponsorships and the like. Have to give them that.

Never heard of T-mag sponsoring anything...EVER.

Except sponsoring how to run another scam supplement.

Don't know what Swolecat has done wrong...he doesn't sell any products. He sells advice. You can either pay for it or not. You're not being in any way BS'ed about what he offers.
I've had my differences with him, but putting him in this thread is ridiculous.

I already unmasked Big Cat and his clan a long time ago.

Fonz

 

[BigAndy69]

purposely sells supps that are dangerous?

what are you talking about? we all know that supps have possible side effects that is up to the user to choose to do the research and make the decision.

drive tastes bad?

are you referring to power drive? tastes pretty good to me especially mixed in soda water.

please tell me what is wrong with cy and bills advice? give some examples please dont just sling dirt.

why is it that people think that a product has to be illegal to be effective? we all know that a good eca is as effective as clen but we still buy clen dont we?

how could someone say ive tried other andro products and they didnt work so mag-10 cant work either? come on lets get some sound arguments.

i think there is some serious closed mindednes being shown on this forum. i too am skeptical of most supps but i have found that biotest makes quality shit, not to mention it is 100% refundable.

i still dont see how TC is a fraud.

Anybody who has used Power Drive knows it tastes awful. You are full of it. Great product, one of there best IMO. DMAE, L-tyrosine...great stuff...but it tastes like ass.

Robert's once stated that Androsol is like a mild cycle of Sustanon.

Cy, please...everything that guy says is stupid...I'm not going through his articles to prove my point.

T2 is more harmful on the thyroid that T3...also about 10% of the results.

Side-effects like mild stomach aches, mild headaches, mild diarrhea are no big deal...things like prostate infection and massive hairloss, urination problems, Urinary track infections, loss of sex drive, shutdown of the HPTA for a fraction of the gains you'd get on AS is a VERY SERIOUS THING!!!!!!

Clen is one of the most effective post cycle drugs I've ever used.

 

[Terd]

Fraud :the crime of obtaining money or some other benefit by deliberate deception

Biotest Myostat, we all know what it's supposed to do. I really shouldn't comment since I haven't tried it

So Biotest found a magical form of brown algae that magically makes all your muscles grow. Except your heart,because that's not a real muscle.

 

[Zepo]

Great thread.

Thanks guys.