The original G'nR were the epitomy of rock

[hanselthecaretaker]

Well music is completely dependent on taste. Which is why some people unexplicably like Yanni and Kenny G . So what I consider good music you'll prolly consider shit and vice versa. Add in the obvious bias and theres no point to that...

and if you can't see why groups such as the Stones, Beatles, Queen, Hendrix, etc. are great rock n roll, well theres nothing I can say really

They were great in their own right (and time span). The other two are largely subjective, although Hendrix was certainly one of the best guitarists of all time.

 

[CrazyRussian]

They were great in their own right (and time span). The other two are largely subjective, although Hendrix was certainly one of the best guitarists of all time.

Uh...I guess? I was under the impression that Hendrix was lauded as one of the greatest rockers and the greatest guitarist of all time? He did hard rock very well (try Voodoo Chile), blues (Red House), and ballads (Castles made of sand).

Queen, as being one of 15 bands ever to sell over 250 million albums, should be up there too I think. Not to mention the fact that Freddie Mercury is the best rock vocalist of all time. Im sure youve already heard Bohemian Rhapsody (named best song of all time) but try Show Must Go On and Under Pressure (my favorite song ever) to hear his amazing vocals.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Uh...I guess? I was under the impression that Hendrix was lauded as one of the greatest rockers and the greatest guitarist of all time? He did hard rock very well (try Voodoo Chile), blues (Red House), and ballads (Castles made of sand).

Queen, as being one of 15 bands ever to sell over 250 million albums, should be up there too I think. Not to mention the fact that Freddie Mercury is the best rock vocalist of all time. Im sure youve already heard Bohemian Rhapsody (named best song of all time) but try Show Must Go On and Under Pressure (my favorite song ever) to hear his amazing vocals.

I can understand that, but don't agree with it. This proves how subjective this thread really is.

 

[LuluDeren]

I've listened to a dozen or so songs of what is widely considered their best (besides Stairway). It was ok but never jumped out at me as being great rock n roll like many seem to think. I never was like "Damn this is good"

What the hell, list some of what you consider their best and I'll listen more seriously and see if I can relate.

Red 'X' by the mandatory

Led Zeppelin [details]All
January 12, 1969 (Atlantic 19126)
Remastered 1994 (Atlantic 82632)
1. Good Times Bad Times (Page/Jones/Bonham)
2. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You (Page/Plant/Anne Bredon)
3. You Shook Me (Willie Dixon)
4. Dazed and Confused (Page)
5. Your Time Is Gonna Come (Page/Jones)
6. Black Mountain Side (Page)
7. Communication Breakdown (Page/Jones/Bonham)
8. I Can't Quit You Baby
9. How Many More Times (Page/Jones/Bonham)

Led Zeppelin II [details]ALL
October 22, 1969 (Atlantic 19127)
Remastered 1994 (Atlantic 82633)
1. Whole Lotta Love (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
2. What Is and What Should Never Be (Page/Plant)
3. The Lemon Song (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
4. Thank You (Page/Plant)
5. Heartbreaker (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
6. Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman) (Page/Plant)
7. Ramble On (Page/Plant)
8. Moby Dick (Page/Jones/Bonham)
9. Bring It On Home (Page/Plant)


Led Zeppelin III [details]
October 5, 1970 (Atlantic 19128)
Remastered 1994 (Atlantic 82678)
1. Immigrant Song (Page/Plant)X
2. Friends (Page/Plant)
3. Celebration Day (Page/Plant/Jones)
4. Since I've Been Loving You (Page/Plant/Jones)X
5. Out On The Tiles (Page/Plant/Bonham)
6. Gallows Pole (Traditional)X
7. Tangerine (Page)X
8. That's The Way (Page)
9. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp (Page/Plant/Jones)X
10. Hats Off To (Roy) Harper (Traditional)


[untitled fourth album] [details]Dear god, ALL
November 8, 1971 (Atlantic 19129)
Remastered 1994 (82638)
1. Black Dog (Page/Plant/Jones)
2. Rock and Roll (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
3. The Battle of Evermore (Page/Plant)
4. Stairway To Heaven (Page/Plant)
5. Misty Mountain Hop (Page/Plant/Jones)
6. Four Sticks (Page/Plant)
7. Going To California (Page/Plant)
8. When The Levee Breaks (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham/Memphis Minnie)

Houses Of The Holy [details] ALL
March 28, 1973 (Atlantic 19130)
Remastered 1994 (82639)
1. The Song Remains The Same (Page/Plant)
2. The Rain Song (Page/Plant)A ballad which exceeds anything G'nR has recorded
3. Over The Hills and Far Away (Page/Plant)
4. The Crunge (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
5. Dancing Days (Page/Plant)
6. D'yer Mak'er (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
7. No Quarter (Page/Plant/Jones)
8. The Ocean (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)


Physical Graffiti [details]
February 24, 1975 (Swan Song SS-200)
Remastered 1994 (92442)
Disc 1:
1. Custard Pie (Page/Plant)
2. The Rover (Page/Plant)
3. In My Time of Dying (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)X
4. Houses of The Holy (Page/Plant)X
5. Trampled Under Foot (Page/Plant/Jones)X
6. Kashmir (Page/Plant/Bonham)X
Disc 2:
1. In The Light (Page/Plant/Jones)X
2. Bron-Yr-Aur (Page) listed above
3. Down By The Seaside (Page/Plant)
4. Ten Years Gone (Page/Plant)X
5. Night Flight (Page/Plant/Jones)X
6. The Wanton Song (Page/Plant)
7. Boogie With Stu (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham/Ian Stewart & Mrs. Valens)
8. Black Country Woman (Page/Plant)
9. Sick Again (Page/Plant)

Presence [details] I'm sure this one had it's merits, but I don't see it
March 31, 1976 (Swan Song SS8416)
Remastered 1994 (92439)
1. Achilles Last Stand (Page/Plant)
2. For Your Life (Page/Plant)
3. Royal Orleans (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
4. Nobody's Fault But Mine (Page/Plant)X
5. Candy Store Rock (Page/Plant)
6. Hots On For Nowhere (Page/Plant)
7. Tea For One (Page/Plant)


In Through The Out Door [details]
August 15, 1979 (Swan Song SS16022)
Remastered 1994 (Swan Song 92443)
1. In The Evening (Page/Plant/Jones)X
2. South Bound Saurez (Plant/Jones)
3. Fool In The Rain (Page/Plant/Jones)
4. Hot Dog (Page/Plant)
5. Carouselambra (Page/Plant/Jones)
6. All My Love (Plant/Jones)X
7. I'm Gonna Crawl (Page/Plant/Jones)X

Coda [details] Not sure I appreciate this one either, lol
November 19, 1982 (Atlantic 90051)
Remastered 1994 (Atlantic 92444)
1. We're Gonna Groove (Ben E. King/James Bethea)
2. Poor Tom (Page/Plant)
3. I Can't Quit You Baby (Willie Dixon)
4. Walter's Walk (Page/Plant)
5. Ozone Baby (Page/Plant)
6. Darlene (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
7. Bonzo's Montreux (Bonham)
8. Wearing and Tearing (Page/Plant)

 

[CrazyRussian]

If you want to hear a song with an "epic" sound, I'd definately go for Kashmir by Zeppelin. As a sidenote, I actually don't like a lot of their stuff but that song IMO is their best by far

 

[Mr. dB]

Presence [details] I'm sure this one had it's merits, but I don't see it
March 31, 1976 (Swan Song SS8416)
Remastered 1994 (92439)
1. Achilles Last Stand (Page/Plant)
2. For Your Life (Page/Plant)X
3. Royal Orleans (Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham)
4. Nobody's Fault But Mine (Page/Plant)X
5. Candy Store Rock (Page/Plant)
6. Hots On For Nowhere (Page/Plant)
7. Tea For One (Page/Plant)XXX

Edited

Some of the tunes here aren't as memorable as their earlier outings, but it's still a fun album if you take it all in from beginning to end. It ends on the slow blues boiler "Tea For One" which is sort of like a "Since I've Been Loving You Pt II".

Presence is a very guitar-oriented album, there's little if any keyboard work, and Page was in top form, lots of catchy riffs throughout, but most of the songs lack any sort of lyrical hook.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

buncha music snobs here

 

[Mavafanculo]

Mr db:

splain to the nice people about Axl's "voice"

feel free to use words like harmonizer, vocoder, etc

 

[5150guy]

Which songs did Axl Rose use

Mr db:

splain to the nice people about Axl's "voice"

feel free to use words like harmonizer, vocoder, etc

On which specific recorded songs did Axl use a vocoder and or harmonizer?

Explain how you know or believe that these devices were used to develop, enhance or contsruct Axl's voice?

My other gig is doing FOH and some studio recording, and I want to see if you really know what you are talking about. Perhaps you can clarify your statement.

 

[Mr. dB]

Mr db:

splain to the nice people about Axl's "voice"

feel free to use words like harmonizer, vocoder, etc

Not much to explain, he's a skinny white kid from Indiana who learned how to fake a growly vocal style. I don't think it takes any electronic enhancement to get the basic Axl vocal noise. His phrasing sounds like Ethel Mermen.

Seriously, try to imagine Ethel Mermen singing "Welcome To The Jungle", it doesn't take much adjustment to make it fit. Or Axl Rose singing "There's No Business Like Show Business"...