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The Prohormone/Designer Steroid Effectiveness Chart
needtobuildmuscle.com<<<---- the place to go for these products and more.

Created By:
"TheSupremeBeing"(Owner of Supreme Sports Enhancements)​




High = 10; Low=1
Muscle Mass/Strength/Definition/Side-Effects



Superdrol(2a, 17a Dimethyl Etiocholan 3-One, 17b-Ol)
Rating: 9/9/8/8

Phera-Plex(17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol)
Rating: 8/8/2/6

Halodrol(4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androst-1,4-Diene-3-17b-Diol)
Rating: 4/5/7/2

Epistane(2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl- 5a-Androstan-17b-Ol)
Rating: 5/6/8/2

BOLD(1, 4 Androstadiene-3, 17- Dione)
Rating: 4/4/5/1

Dymethazine(17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17beta-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-on azine)
Rating: ?/?/?/?

Trenadrol(17b-methoxy-Trienbolone)
Rating: 5/8/7/6

11-oxo(Androsterone)
Rating: 2/2/6/1

Furazadrol(5a-Etioallocholan[2,3-C]furazan-17b-Tetrahydropyranol Ether):
Rating: 3/3/5/2
 
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Guaranteed that Superdrol is very powerful and effective. Ran the original maker by Anabolic Xtreme years ago and gained 14 lbs. of hard lean muscle and kept every bit of it!! Need to run a good liver protection,etc. Many clones out there but real ones are effective. Most sides I got were lower back aches, and was lethargic. I felt strong as a horse while working out!! Drink plenty of water and watch the dosage. A good and safe dose was 20-30mg a day for 4 weeks. Hope this helps someone.
 
Guaranteed that Superdrol is very powerful and effective. Ran the original maker by Anabolic Xtreme years ago and gained 14 lbs. of hard lean muscle and kept every bit of it!! Need to run a good liver protection,etc. Many clones out there but real ones are effective. Most sides I got were lower back aches, thats it. Drink plenty of water and watch the dosage. A good and safe dose was 20-30mg a day for 4 weeks. Hope this helps someone.

Bingo! That is Superdrol my friend. Thank you for your input.
 
Was it Superdrol NG or the original steroidal product? Superdrol is the same compound as Monsterdrol, which yields between 15-25lb of mass on a bulking cycle.

It was the orginal superdrol not the " Nextgeneration product "
I noticed alot of cramping and lethargic headaches from it.

I felt good in the gym strenght went up but felt like crap outta the gym .
30mg 10mg divided into 3 doses.

I have heard the NG superdrol .The newest one is better
dont know
 
I'm not an AS vet by any means, so it is difficult for me to compare effectivenesses on a scale, but I tried superdrol and was extremely impressed. I used it only for 3 weeks, but gained a staggering amount of strength while using it even on my weakest exercise, the dumbell bench press. In those 3 weeks my dumbell weight went up 15 pounds each. Every week I was performing more reps with a 5 pound increase than I did the prior week with 5 pounds less. I was training MMA recreationally at the time also and noticed no decrease in endurance. I did however suffer from cramping, insomnia, and moodiness. I didn't have my blood and liver values checked before and after superdrol usage, so I cannot comment on superdrol's effect on blood and liver values. I used the Anabolic Xtreme version.
 
Needtogetaas put out his own Superdrol product. Send him a PM for orders, he is shipping all packs starting Monday.

Superdrol is the shit!

I already got my order in :)


!
 
Jacob how was your recovery? ( of you own test production)

I can only speak about how I felt as opposed to actual T blood levels. When I cam off I felt no different than before I went on. My gains slowed afterward, but didn't halt. I am probably going to try needto's product.

On another note, what is the longest anyone has consistently remained on Superdrol?
 
Superdrol(2a, 17a Dimethyl Etiocholan 3-One, 17b-Ol)
Rating: 9/9/8/8

= "Beastdrol"


Phera-Plex(17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol)
Rating: 8/8/2/6

PLUS 13-methyl methoxy = "Dieselbolan"



Trenadrol(17b-methoxy-Trienbolone)
Rating: 5/8/7/6


= "19-Tren TFO"



The Prohormone/Designer Steroid Effectiveness Chart


Created By:
"TheSupremeBeing"(Owner of Supreme Sports Enhancements)​




High = 10; Low=1
Muscle Mass/Strength/Definition/Side-Effects



Superdrol(2a, 17a Dimethyl Etiocholan 3-One, 17b-Ol)
Rating: 9/9/8/8

Phera-Plex(17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol)
Rating: 8/8/2/6

Halodrol(4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androst-1,4-Diene-3-17b-Diol)
Rating: 4/5/7/2

Epistane(2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl- 5a-Androstan-17b-Ol)
Rating: 5/6/8/2

BOLD(1, 4 Androstadiene-3, 17- Dione)
Rating: 4/4/5/1

Dymethazine(17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17beta-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-on azine)
Rating: ?/?/?/?

Trenadrol(17b-methoxy-Trienbolone)
Rating: 5/8/7/6

11-oxo(Androsterone)
Rating: 2/2/6/1

Furazadrol(5a-Etioallocholan[2,3-C]furazan-17b-Tetrahydropyranol Ether):
Rating: 3/3/5/2
 
Superdrol(2a, 17a Dimethyl Etiocholan 3-One, 17b-Ol)
Rating: 9/9/8/8

= "Beastdrol"


Phera-Plex(17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol)
Rating: 8/8/2/6

PLUS 13-methyl methoxy = "Dieselbolan"



Trenadrol(17b-methoxy-Trienbolone)
Rating: 5/8/7/6


= "19-Tren TFO"


:D with the 13 mythel methoxy I added tot the madol/p-plex its going to bring that definition gains 2 up a lot more. Hell ya
 
Good list!
 
Methyl 1-testosterone was the strongest pro-hormone or legal steroid. Still legal over here and can buy it in most sports nutrition shops. Cannot understand how or why people are comparing some of the products to actual steroids, theres one thread on here comparing beastdrol to dbol.....are you for real>?!
 
Methyl 1-testosterone was the strongest pro-hormone or legal steroid. Still legal over here and can buy it in most sports nutrition shops. Cannot understand how or why people are comparing some of the products to actual steroids, theres one thread on here comparing beastdrol to dbol.....are you for real>?!

Have you used it? NO did not think so. Beastdrol is a steroid bro. You must not know much about steroids.
 
Methyl 1-testosterone was the strongest pro-hormone or legal steroid. Still legal over here and can buy it in most sports nutrition shops. Cannot understand how or why people are comparing some of the products to actual steroids, theres one thread on here comparing beastdrol to dbol.....are you for real>?!

And guess what. DMT is more powerful then mytheltest. Guess whats in deisilbolan. HA You really have no damn clue what you are talking about do you. Not a single clue.
 
And guess what. DMT is more powerful then mytheltest. Guess whats in deisilbolan. HA You really have no damn clue what you are talking about do you. Not a single clue.

Ask any real bodybuilder what they prefer... steroids that have been around for years and we all know they work, and work well. Or a prohormone or pro steroid, which lets be honest usually gives you the negative effects of AAS and no where near the positives. I have used M1T and 19-norandrostenediol (before that was banned years ago) and they both fall way short of even the mildest steroids. I have first hand experience of this and im serious, i had far better gains on a 8 week 300mg cycle of primo than on either of those products....not to mention far less side effects. For a mod, you seem pretty quick to flash at people. I think we both know that i do have a clue what im talking about.
 
Ask any real bodybuilder what they prefer... steroids that have been around for years and we all know they work, and work well. Or a prohormone or pro steroid, which lets be honest usually gives you the negative effects of AAS and no where near the positives. I have used M1T and 19-norandrostenediol (before that was banned years ago) and they both fall way short of even the mildest steroids. I have first hand experience of this and im serious, i had far better gains on a 8 week 300mg cycle of primo than on either of those products....not to mention far less side effects. For a mod, you seem pretty quick to flash at people. I think we both know that i do have a clue what im talking about.

Unfortunately when it comes to some of these compounds you are misinformed. Superdrol (beastdrol is a superdrol clone) is methylated masteron. It's only legal due to a loop hole in the law. It is to masteron what dbol is to EQ. Make sense?

It's one of the most anabolic compounds, legal or illegal on the planet. Many "real body builders" include superdrol as a kickstart to their injectable cycles. Read up on it. It's real, it's pretty harsh and it's probably not going to be legal forever.
 
I understand what you mean about EQ and Dbol, yes the structures are very simlar, the results of each is vastly different though. Have used M1T before, im sure its similar in strength to superdrol, yes i did gain some strength, and was suprised. I used 30mg a day for 4 weeks, a high dosage as most use 20mg. I have used dbol many times, at dosages from 20-60mg a day and i can tell you the results were far better than thew M1T. Think about it, many pros use 80+mg of dbol or 200mg of anadrol as a kickstart - Guys on these boards use 50mg of dbol or 150mg of anadrol for 4-6 weeks - are you suggesting that superdrol would stand up against these drugs? Both are 17aa but M1T and Superdrol are notoriously harsher on the liver than the traditional orals even at these low dosages, im not saying dbol is good for the liver, but there is no way you would run 50+mg of M1T if you wanted a liver after you finish up.
 
I understand what you mean about EQ and Dbol, yes the structures are very simlar, the results of each is vastly different though.


Exactly, same with superdrol and masterone. 15lbs-17lbs LEAN is not unheard of on superdrol only over four weeks. No bloat, no gyno but many other sides are possible. A lot of negative things can be said about it but noone that uses it and has a good diet and training regimine in place will deny it's one of the most powerful steroids out there.
 
Guys on these boards use 50mg of dbol or 150mg of anadrol for 4-6 weeks - are you suggesting that superdrol would stand up against these drugs? Both are 17aa but M1T and Superdrol are notoriously harsher on the liver than the traditional orals even at these low dosages, im not saying dbol is good for the liver, but there is no way you would run 50+mg of M1T if you wanted a liver after you finish up.

Yes I am. 30mg of superdrol will out perform 50mg of dbol. I have no experience with anadrol but bros I trust tell me that superdrol is comparable but MAYBE a little bit less in the strength department but with leaner more keepable gains.

It makes no difference to me if you use superdrol or not. I don't sell it or get any kickbacks. It just always gets me when somebody gets hung up on something being legal. Well, they all legal at one time. The fact that superdrol doesn't convert to anything and is effective immediately (not a pro hormone) should clue you in to the fact that it is a steroid.

As for it being harsher - I don't know - I don't think that's been proven. But it is harsh. The most I know of someone running it is at 40mg but I personally wouldn't go above 30mg and run liv 52 and AI cycle support.
 
so what are the neg sides associated w/ superdrol. I've heard of delayed onset gyno any truth?

I got very dry. Joints hurt and bp slightly elevated. I've heard of the delayed gyno too but I'm not sure about it. The theory is that it's estrogen rebound since reduces your estrogen.
 
superdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. With its inability to aromatize , since it’s already reduced at the 5th position, it cannot make estrogen


(17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol) also known as DMT is a potent synthetic oral anabolic steroid, first patented in 1961 by Max Huffman of the Lasdon Foundation115. This agent was never made available as a commercial prescription drug product, and saw only limited investigation in the mid-1960's before disappearing into research obscurity. Madol remained hidden in the library bookshelves for decades, until remerging in 2005 as a new "designer steroid" of interest to international sports doping officials. This was due to the confiscation of a sample of DMT at the Canadian border in December of 2003, where it was found in the possession of Canadian sprinter Derek Dueck during a routine vehicle inspection. The DMT sample remained nameless in a Customs warehouse for over a year, until officials from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) finally became involved and had it tested and identified. Madol is only the third never commercially marketed anabolic steroid found to be in use by athletes, following norbolethone and THG.

Unlike its distant cousin methyltestosterone, Madol is unable to convert to estrogen. This means that its use should not impart the normal estrogenic side effects such as increased water retention, fat buildup, or gynecomastia. This makes it an excellent agent to use during lean tissue building cycles, having an effect somewhat along the lines of Winstrol or trenbolone. It can also be used in bulking cycles. It is neither estrogenic nor significantly androgenic. In general, we can say that Madol is functionally far removed from its cousin methyltestosterone, which is known for being a problematic side-effect-producing mass builder and a terrible agent to use during cutting cycles. The one principle side effect it does share with methyltestosterone, however, its hepatotoxicity. One should respect this agent in this regard, and be conservative with its dosage and duration of use as one would any other c-17 alpha alkylated oral. For gains vs side effects madol is perfect.

Something over looked about Dieselbolan/COLOR] is that Madol will increase muscle recovery much faster then with other otc steroids like beastdrol aka superdrol. And has a greater effect on nutrition retention as well. So withmore focused diet and training it will give better results (overall) with less sides.

you do the math. And yes you do have no Idea what you are talking about right now bro. Not trying to be rude but you just don't.
 
im considering getting beastdrol.

my asshoe connect
and his dickhole connect

arent getting me dbol, my favorite compound of all time!


so im experimenting with test prop and tren ace
they are the biggest letdown so far.
this prop is taking so long to kick i might as well have used enanthate

if i am longing for dbol will beastdrol let me down?
i remember dbol working in days.
i remember being huge in A WEEK
i remember adding more weight to my lifts than my joints could handle.

at $50 a pop its a real nice price, too.

have any dbol lovers here taken beastdrol?

REVIEWS? COMPARISONS?

i know they are different compounds
but im hoping to get something better than this crappy prop since i can't get ANY dbol =(
 
15-17lbs of lean mass no water in 4 weeks? doesnt exist. Anadrol, Tren and Test are the strongest steroids on this planet, you wouldnt gain 15-17lbs of "lean dry gains on that combo"....are you really suggesting with one compund alone, at 30mg it can achieve what the strongest steroids in the world cannot??

I have used M1T and gained some strength, but compared to 50mg of dbol, it wasnt even close. I dont care about the legal/illegal thing, i live in the uk, its legal to use steroids for "personal use" so that way of thinking has no impact on my standpoint.
 
15-17lbs of lean mass no water in 4 weeks? doesnt exist. Anadrol, Tren and Test are the strongest steroids on this planet, you wouldnt gain 15-17lbs of "lean dry gains on that combo"....are you really suggesting with one compund alone, at 30mg it can achieve what the strongest steroids in the world cannot??

I have used M1T and gained some strength, but compared to 50mg of dbol, it wasnt even close. I dont care about the legal/illegal thing, i live in the uk, its legal to use steroids for "personal use" so that way of thinking has no impact on my standpoint.

Not sure who made up the magic number. But str8 from my site as advertized


100% results. Beastrol is a powerful product that commands respect. Strength gains with Beastrol are truly Amazing, and all the gains in size are lean and hard. Here at needtobuildmuscle.com we do not make up fake figures and tell you a magical number of lbs of muscle you will gain. What we will tell you is Beastdrol is one of the most powerful products on the market and you will see Amazing results no matter what your goal is.


A know a lot of people who have taken anadrol and it was tah suck for them. I am one of them. I liked d-bol better.

I like superdrol/beastdrol better then dbol for strength gains and leaner gains. I like dbol better if all I really want is to bulk bulk bulk.

The subject of what you like better when it comes to steroids is strictly In the users Opinion.

I like deca nelson and others hate it. I like eq many people hate it. I hate anadrol but many people think its great.

So I think its great that you do not like superdrol or dmt. Thanks for sharing that with people. I think its great that you love d-bol and anadrol. Thanks for sharing that with us.

Your opinion on these steroids have been taken into account I am sure. But that is all they are is your opinion or the opinions of some people.

My opinion is superdrol is the best oral I have ever taken. You can look to my post from 6 months to a year ago. I was saying this long long before I was selling it, and so were many other people. But again thats just my opinion of yet another steroid on the long list of steroids out there
 
15-17lbs of lean mass no water in 4 weeks? doesnt exist. Anadrol, Tren and Test are the strongest steroids on this planet, you wouldnt gain 15-17lbs of "lean dry gains on that combo"....are you really suggesting with one compund alone, at 30mg it can achieve what the strongest steroids in the world cannot??

Of course no muscle is truely "dry" but gains can be bloat free and yes 15-17lbs is very possible with superdrol- I've experienced it myself. I can't remember anyone not gaining at least 10lbs. Google superdrol and read some of the logs. Or search this site for monsterdrol logs. Same thing.

There is no point in arguing anymore - especially if you haven't used it and are simply going to say "impossible" when there are plenty of people that have tried it and would disagree.
 
Of course no muscle is truely "dry" but gains can be bloat free and yes 15-17lbs is very possible with superdrol- I've experienced it myself. I can't remember anyone not gaining at least 10lbs. Google superdrol and read some of the logs. Or search this site for monsterdrol logs. Same thing.

There is no point in arguing anymore - especially if you haven't used it and are simply going to say "impossible" when there are plenty of people that have tried it and would disagree.

Its legal to buy overhere bro, superdrol was but is harder to come across now though....loads of clones though and yes reveiws say "i gained 14lbs in 2 weeks" but lets be honest, when you see the same reveiws for nitro tech and no explode, you take it with a pintch of salt.
 
Its legal to buy overhere bro, superdrol was but is harder to come across now though....loads of clones though and yes reveiws say "i gained 14lbs in 2 weeks" but lets be honest, when you see the same reveiws for nitro tech and no explode, you take it with a pintch of salt.

Absolutely. I can loose and gain 5-6lbs in a couple weeks just using creatine monohydrate but in that case I know what's going on for sure. Muscle cells that hold more water weigh more and we all know what creatine does.

All I'm saying is that superdrol is a legitimate steroid. Marketers calling it a "prohormone or prosteroid" are just confusing the situation and playing word games. They are even afraid to say you need a real PCT after using this or that it's dangerous and toxic to your liver. I think that's pretty shitty but most of these companies are actually trying to hide the fact that they're selling fucking steroids!

Now I know needto is honest about what they are and so were other sponsors here that sold basically the same products.

Peace!
 
I have jumped up weight on creatine too and as you said we all know how that works and its all pissed out after discontinuing the sup. I can accept that these prodcuts are legit steroids, but i am yet to see or hear of anyone i know gaining what they do with lets say, traditional steroids/GH. In the end of the day like need2 said, its all personal and relative to how you respond to differnet compounds.
 
Absolutely. I can loose and gain 5-6lbs in a couple weeks just using creatine monohydrate but in that case I know what's going on for sure. Muscle cells that hold more water weigh more and we all know what creatine does.

All I'm saying is that superdrol is a legitimate steroid. Marketers calling it a "prohormone or prosteroid" are just confusing the situation and playing word games. They are even afraid to say you need a real PCT after using this or that it's dangerous and toxic to your liver. I think that's pretty shitty but most of these companies are actually trying to hide the fact that they're selling fucking steroids!

Now I know needto is honest about what they are and so were other sponsors here that sold basically the same products.

Peace!

Amen.
 
I'm not an AS vet by any means, so it is difficult for me to compare effectivenesses on a scale, but I tried superdrol and was extremely impressed. I used it only for 3 weeks, but gained a staggering amount of strength while using it even on my weakest exercise, the dumbell bench press. In those 3 weeks my dumbell weight went up 15 pounds each. Every week I was performing more reps with a 5 pound increase than I did the prior week with 5 pounds less. I was training MMA recreationally at the time also and noticed no decrease in endurance. I did however suffer from cramping, insomnia, and moodiness. I didn't have my blood and liver values checked before and after superdrol usage, so I cannot comment on superdrol's effect on blood and liver values. I used the Anabolic Xtreme version.
the exact results i got from beastdrol
 
im considering getting beastdrol.

my asshoe connect
and his dickhole connect

arent getting me dbol, my favorite compound of all time!


so im experimenting with test prop and tren ace
they are the biggest letdown so far.
this prop is taking so long to kick i might as well have used enanthate

if i am longing for dbol will beastdrol let me down?
i remember dbol working in days.
i remember being huge in A WEEK
i remember adding more weight to my lifts than my joints could handle.

at $50 a pop its a real nice price, too.

have any dbol lovers here taken beastdrol?

REVIEWS? COMPARISONS?

i know they are different compounds
but im hoping to get something better than this crappy prop since i can't get ANY dbol =(
dont concider..try it it wont let u down bro!
 
The Prohormone/Designer Steroid Effectiveness Chart
needtobuildmuscle.com<<<---- the place to go for these products and more.

Created By:
"TheSupremeBeing"(Owner of Supreme Sports Enhancements)​




High = 10; Low=1
Muscle Mass/Strength/Definition/Side-Effects



Superdrol(2a, 17a Dimethyl Etiocholan 3-One, 17b-Ol)
Rating: 9/9/8/8

Phera-Plex(17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol)
Rating: 8/8/2/6

Halodrol(4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androst-1,4-Diene-3-17b-Diol)
Rating: 4/5/7/2

Epistane(2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl- 5a-Androstan-17b-Ol)
Rating: 5/6/8/2

BOLD(1, 4 Androstadiene-3, 17- Dione)
Rating: 4/4/5/1

Dymethazine(17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17beta-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-on azine)
Rating: ?/?/?/?

Trenadrol(17b-methoxy-Trienbolone)
Rating: 5/8/7/6

11-oxo(Androsterone)
Rating: 2/2/6/1

Furazadrol(5a-Etioallocholan[2,3-C]furazan-17b-Tetrahydropyranol Ether):
Rating: 3/3/5/2

I have got to get you up to speed ross. Your missing like 10 compounds from the list my man. I got new compounds just kicking around waiting now lol.. Soon as the ban the next batch I got 5 more coming out behind it bwahahahaaaaa well ok mrsupps.com has them. I just formulate the fuckers.
 
I have got to get you up to speed ross. Your missing like 10 compounds from the list my man. I got new compounds just kicking around waiting now lol.. Soon as the ban the next batch I got 5 more coming out behind it bwahahahaaaaa well ok mrsupps.com has them. I just formulate the fuckers.

I knew there was a reason why I liked this forum the best.
Can't wait to read about them. :)
 
Well i have tried M-Drol by CEL and it did'nt increase my strength compared to H-Drol even.Maybe there was a quality batch issue with M-Drol.
 
Well i have tried M-Drol by CEL and it did'nt increase my strength compared to H-Drol even.Maybe there was a quality batch issue with M-Drol.

Um, YES, most certainly there was a quality issue with your particular batch, M-drol is leaps and bounds more androgenic and anabolic than H-drol.
 
I'm surprised to see that Epistane/Epistrong is slightly more potent than Helladrol/Halodrol. That's good to know.

Halodrol(4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androst-1,4-Diene-3-17b-Diol)
Rating: 4/5/7/2

Epistane(2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl- 5a-Androstan-17b-Ol)
Rating: 5/6/8/2
 
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