The new affrimative action

[milo hobgoblin]

So we have a new delimma in the UC school system.

Recently the president of the UC regents system system (John moore... owner of the padres) wants the schools investigated because people with 1400+ SAT and moderate GPA scores are being turned away in favor of students with high GPA's but low SAT's.

Here is the problem. How often does a student with a 1400+ SAT have a low GPA (its rhetorical).... and how close does it have to be.

If a student from some school in Compton has a 4.0 GPA and a 900 SAT gets selected over a student.. say from Rancho Bernardo with a 3.8 GPA and a 1400 SAT.. is that fair?

Does a school in Compton or the heart of Oakland have the same level of education as a school in Palos Verdes or Rancho Santa Fe?? Hell as long as you dont stab your teacher or get pregnant you can manage a 3.0 in come of these inner city schools.

Anyone who cant see through this paper thin ploy to enroll the "downtrodden" has to be blind. All this is is another disguise for affirmative action. Might as well throw prop 209 out the window.

How many times do we have to vote this shit down before these liberal fuckheads running the schools stop trying to pull this shit.
Oh and the code name for their new affirmative action program is "Comprehensive Review"

 

[Gideon]

Excellent post.

Shame it will probably be locked soon.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

naaa

I didnt mention race anywhere in my post... oh wait I said the word "race" in my own reply... I fucked myself.. DOH!

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

It won't be locked if we stay mature about the topic.

My sister is a teacher in NY city. Her areas would be considered "inner city" by anyone; in 4 years tehacning she has not had a white student.

The first two years she taught high school. She said that there were some students - mostly girls - who got into top schools: Yale, Brown etc after HS.

However, these gilrs would often last only a semester because the workload at these schools was over their head. They would come bsck and enroll at CCNY (citycollege of NY) because it was more their speed.

College admission has become such a scam....

 

[milo hobgoblin]

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must be incredibly frustrating for her. I could never be a high school teacher... I would lose my mind teaching all that revisionist crap.

Sometimes I really feel sorry for teachers. They have a difficult job.

 

[Chaucer]

But since we know "diversity" is what makes Amerikwa great, it is important to achieve "diversity" at all our institutions (private too!!!) even if it means disregarding the constitution.

 

[Burning_Inside]

Whats UC?

 

[milo hobgoblin]

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University of California (Berkely, etc..)

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Re: /...

must be incredibly frustrating for her. I could never be a high school teacher... I would lose my mind teaching all that revisionist crap.

Sometimes I really feel sorry for teachers. They have a difficult job.

She ahs an interesting perspective on things. She said that the old-line teachers are th eones who are merely soldiering on, whereas a lot of the younger ones are upset.

Younger teachers don't want to join the unions etc, whereas older teachers do what the unions tell them unquestioningly.

This is normal - younger workers are always more enthusiastic and less cynical, but combined with effective policymaking, there is a change receptive audience.

Mayor Bloomberg in NY city has regained control of the school board. If he can show that model to be a success, it might make inroads elsewhere.

The enemy is the teacher's union.....collective bargaining in the public sector for taxpayer funded jobs is reprehensible. Even uber-liberal FDR forbade public sector unions.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

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agreed... same with road workers (i.e. Caltrans) are even worse. Its amazing how such a large organization con produce so little thanks to a Union.

 

[Dial_tone]

If the student from some school in Compton with a 4.0 GPA and a 900 SAT can't handle the workload they'll be kicked out anyway so the system works as it should. If they can finish it proves there's more to it than SAT/ACT scores.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

If the student from some school in Compton with a 4.0 GPA and a 900 SAT can't handle the workload they'll be kicked out anyway so the system works as it should. If they can finish it proves there's more to it than SAT/ACT scores.

It doesn't work as it should.

What invaribaly happens in the state schools is that it becomes politically untenable to start firing out minroities in large numbers.
(Most of these kids are atstate schools; the article talks of the UC system.)

So remedial course work is introduced, to bring low-end students up to speed. Colleges are in effect doing what the high schools could not.

Two consequences:

1. taxpayers pay twice for the same service - a HS level education

2. Resources are diverted away from university education and university development.

Bad!

 

[bwood]

It doesn't work as it should.

What invaribaly happens in the state schools is that it becomes politically untenable to start firing out minroities in large numbers.
(Most of these kids are atstate schools; the article talks of the UC system.)

So remedial course work is introduced, to bring low-end students up to speed. Colleges are in effect doing what the high schools could not.

Two consequences:

1. taxpayers pay twice for the same service - a HS level education

2. Resources are diverted away from university education and university development.

Bad!

but it does fit in with the true liberal agenda...

decreasing the overall productivity and therefore
the richness of america...because egality cannot
result naturally and is next to impossible to impose...

although the death of a thousand cuts bureacracy
we have is making a good try...

 

[gotmilk]

College admission has become such a scam....

I laugh everytime someone at Harvard fucks up....and yet I could not get in. I structure deals that most Harvard MBA students dream about.....

I cannot believe that some schools are offering full scholarships to foreigners when local students get passed by. I almost peed myself when a girl in Northern Afghanistan stated on NBC news that she was accepted by Harvard for the class of 2006. Was it her SAT scores?

 

[Dial_tone]

It doesn't work as it should.

What invaribaly happens in the state schools is that it becomes politically untenable to start firing out minroities in large numbers.

Who said anything about minorities? This isn't an 'r****m' thread. Where do the "large numbers" come in to play? What percentage of kids are getting into schools under these types of loopholes? I don't ever recall any political fallouts over this type of thing and I grew up where it was ALWAYS an issue.