The Mail People Stike AGAIN!!!

[jock52]

Re: The Mail People Strike AGAIN!!!

I feel you on this... I sent some stuff to my brothers back home and it never arrived... had the address on all 4 sides of the box and the post office people have no idea where it went... f the US postal service.

I ordered some stuff before they run out...got home from work today and the envelope had been opened! Some asshole took a couple of my bottles!!! I am pissed!!! I called the post office and they are trying to give me the run around! we will see what happens tomorrow when I go into the post office...

Needto you probably have one SWOLLEN post man somewhere!

 

[gstacker]

got mine real quick all packaged up tite, but a smaller order....protien bars on hit

 

[onebadass_88]

hell im in Afghanistan and i get my products in less then a week and never have any porblems at all. the shiiping is awsome

 

[websy21]

WOW thats bullshit, just go's to show what people will do when they see a package that says Need to build muscle on it

 

[1500]

okay, upon some further research... I've found a few things...

A) The Postal Inspector needs no warrant to open a package if they find it suspicious. Sometimes they tear a corner so that drug dogs can sniff.

1500's response

K-9's do not need any package ripped open for them to be able to detect whats inside a package. If a K-9 is called and the packaged is sniffed, the dog alerts to the odor of narcotics, then the package can be opened AFTER A SEARCH WARRANT IS OBTAINED. Tearing the package is in fact opening the package, and any case that you had would be thrown out because you've violated the suspect's right to privacy b4 you've even attempted to obtain a warrant. So this theory is out the window for why these packs are supposedly opened.

 

[hwydopehound]

Wrong. K9 is called. If he alerts the need for a warrant depends on the state. In my state, if a dog alerts you then have PC (probable cause) to search. In new mexico, you can see the dope in the house and all you can do is secure the house, you then need a warrant... It's on a state by state basis. And trust me, the k9 doesn' t need the box torn open. You walk in mcd's and smell the hamburgers... fido walks in and smells mustard, grease, meat, spices in uncooked meat, the man behind the counter, what he had for breakfast, and the fart he let out an hour before hand.. k9's don't need to have a package torn open... one of two things is happening.. people are seeing "need to build muscle" on the package and opening it for themselves or postal serice is seeing it and claiming it is suspicious. Although, on my package i received last i saw no indicators of criminal activity.. NONE.. i will not tell anyone what they are, but they weren't there..

other than those two things, people are ripping needto off.. if I were him, I'd change the label or something...

okay, upon some further research... I've found a few things...

A) The Postal Inspector needs no warrant to open a package if they find it suspicious. Sometimes they tear a corner so that drug dogs can sniff.

K-9's do not need any package ripped open for them to be able to detect whats inside a package. If a K-9 is called and the packaged is sniffed, the dog alerts to the odor of narcotics, then the package can be opened AFTER A SEARCH WARRANT IS OBTAINED. Tearing the package is in fact opening the package, and any case that you had would be thrown out because you've violated the suspect's right to privacy b4 you've even attempted to obtain a warrant. So this theory is out the window for why these packs are supposedly opened.

 

[miplank]

USPS is FEDERAL, not state.


Now if they hit on a package that is not PRIORITY, they can open it. but being priority you have to have a warrant.


End of discussion

 

[1500]

hwydopehound, I dont know if you're confusing my response with sonicwaste's that i quoted, but you basically echoed what i said about a K-9 being called and it not being needed to be torn for the k-9 to smell whats in the package.

The USPS, is under federal jurisdiction and therefore a search warrant for MAIL will not vary from state to state. If a dog alerts ON MAIL, (PC now exists and thus the reason that a search warrant can even be obtained) a search warrant MUST be obtained before the package is opened. This will NEVER vary.

Of course in other Probable cause scenarios, regarding houses and vehicles, yes that will vary from state to state. A dog alerts to a vehicle in NC, probable cause-search entire vehicle without a warrant (vehicle exception rule). A dog alerts on a vehicle in PA- search warrant must be obtained b4 searching the vehicle. Lets not get off topic though.

 

[1500]

USPS is FEDERAL, not state.


Now if they hit on a package that is not PRIORITY, they can open it. but being priority you have to have a warrant.


End of discussion

stop stealing my answers

 

[miplank]

here, just to shut everyone up. This is taken right off the US postal inspectors website.

Can Postal Inspectors open mail if they feel it may contain something illegal?
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/contactUs/faq.aspx