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smart man.........Mac173 said:
The Importance Of Steroids
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VooDooChild
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Nelson Montana said:
Im sure they come here and laugh at everyones 20mg/ed dbol and 400mg test/week cycles.. And, im positive they have the best doctors around, prescribing the best drugs to them.. If its not a science, what is it than? Im sure they didnt buy the book 'beyond steroids', and get their knowledge from that..
VooDooChild said:
Dude, you're so off. It's not what you think at all.
First of all, they ain't coming here. And if they were, they wouldn't be laughing at the guy who takes 20 mgs of dbol and 400 grams of test. They'd be laughing at the guy who takes 50 mgs of dbol and 100 grams of test and 400 grams of deca and 500 grams of EQ.
I can't mention names but I know pros who take just test and primo and that's the end of it. They don't have the best doctors. They have a friend who hooks them up.
You ask: "If it's not a science, what is it? " It's called elite athlete talent bro. Genetics, meets work ethic meets response to drugs. One percent of the population has it at a level that makes them the top one percent.
Tweakle
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Personal experience is so much more relevant that pointing at some genetic freak's achievements, wouldn't you say?
I'd love to know the stats, lifts, titles our experts have. Surely people who 'mod on various boards', who 'matter in their field' and are 'reknown experts', 'published authors' and the like must have built some amazingly impressive physiques themselves with their wealth of knowledge and their years of AAS experience in the trenches.
I'd love to know the stats, lifts, titles our experts have. Surely people who 'mod on various boards', who 'matter in their field' and are 'reknown experts', 'published authors' and the like must have built some amazingly impressive physiques themselves with their wealth of knowledge and their years of AAS experience in the trenches.
Tweakle said:
I'm quite proud of the progress I've made as a bodybuilder considering where I came from. That's one of my biggest sellling points -- that a guy with horrible genetics can make such an improvement DRUG FREE. I walk the walk, unlike a lot of so called "experts."
But if you think the biggest guy or the guy who uses the most juice or the guy who is geneticly geared toward being strong is the most qualified person to speak to on training or pharmacology or anything else, you have a lot to learn.
solidspine
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Tony R.
Where did you go to Prison, for how long and what for?
Oh I did 28 months at California Institution for Men, CIM, Chino, California
Maybe you missed me on the boards, oh wait, you were not here then, in fact you have only been here a couple of months.
Where did you go to Prison, for how long and what for?
Oh I did 28 months at California Institution for Men, CIM, Chino, California
Maybe you missed me on the boards, oh wait, you were not here then, in fact you have only been here a couple of months.
solidspine
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You still keep avoiding my question & you keep bragging about
“going to prison”
like it is some accomplishment.
For most people it is a waste of time, just a way for the government to make money off of people having problems, is that what you support.
“going to prison”
like it is some accomplishment.
For most people it is a waste of time, just a way for the government to make money off of people having problems, is that what you support.
silver_shadow
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no offense bro, but perhaps you should spend a little time on the training board to find out that tweakle knows much more about weightlifting then 99.999% around here and in most gyms around the world.... the proof is in the numbers he moves and he has vids of them... i think some of them are in the vids sticky on that forum. not trying to start shit, but i thought i'd just clarify that.Nelson Montana said:
anyway, i had no preconceived notions about AR before this thread but seeing that all he seems to have done here is brag that he is an expert, has x books to his name and the name dropping, i'd definitely doubt his credentials. plus the fact that he boasts that the guys here are nobodies... not a very smart move from a man who wants to be the message boards expert - the people he disses are potentially those who might buy his books and help him along in actually being an expert.
back on topic: i said it before and it got drowned in the noise of AR bashing... training is the reason each and every one of us is in this game whether as bodybuilders, powerlifters or just enthusiasts and this is the one thing being given step motherly treatment by most... or so it seems to me. i don't see most of the AAS forum guys post much if anything at all on the training board... are they so confident they know everything about training? yes. do they actually know that much? i'm not so sure about that.
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VooDooChild
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Nelson Montana said:
So you know pros that just take test and primo? Ill bet my house, truck, and harley, they havent won anything major as a pro. Not that hard to become pro in IFBB in my opinion. I know 2 woman and 3 men that are IFBB pros, and they are not just taking a little bit of test and primo.
Its a science, and you wont convince me otherwise.. Genetics does play a big role, I do agree with that. But calling it elite athlete talent? Gimmie a break.. Maybe you can partner up with hooker and write a book together.
You can call it 'Becoming Pro On Test & Primo'. Im sure it will be huge seller, and you guys can charge $500/hr, and teach me how to squat 185 and make my legs genetically freaky..
