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The Facts on Oral Only Cycles.

mattdan said:
Without question. IMHO it just may be the most COST EFFECTIVE gear.

I also think most lose so much of their gains because they don't understand the diet needs of d.bol.

d.bol needs a lot of calories and protein to really work well.


I have done oral only cycles, and frankly they were some of my most successful.
 
great post, mattdan. this is a very controversial subject. i would be curious if this discusion can remain civil. those "gotta have test as a base" guys are prone to outburst, you know. lol.
 
layinback said:
great post, mattdan. this is a very controversial subject. i would be curious if this discusion can remain civil. those "gotta have test as a base" guys are prone to outburst, you know. lol.

how long has the "test as a base" motto been around
from what i have read, in the 70s and 80s, test was rarely used as a base
 
thats cool I have bin telling people in pm's how to run great all oral cycles for months now...and I realy dont give a shit if its populer or not.yes they can be effective if run right...
 
5x10 said:
how long has the "test as a base" motto been around
from what i have read, in the 70s and 80s, test was rarely used as a base
recent phenomena.....when i was fighting in the early 80's everybody was doin dbol only cycles and nobody died but a few wound up with bra's.
 
layinback said:
recent phenomena.....when i was fighting in the early 80's everybody was doin Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycles and nobody died but a few wound up with bra's.
thank god for ai's and pct.
 
needtogetaas said:
thank god for aromatase inhibitor's and PCT - post cycle therapy - .
yes. back in the day wasnt no such animal as pct. you grit your teeth and hang on til the nads kicked in. i didnt do the juice until 1999.
 
With anything though a baseline has to be established that would benefit the most people at a baseline dosage. Kind of like LD50...(lethal dose 50) in which a given medicine will kill at least 50% of a control group at "x" dosage......you may be one of the 50% that makes fantastic gains, with no side effects......but there are very few willing to gamble with those odds
 
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