The Facts on Oral Only Cycles.

[wwebound4life]

Can someone lay out a d-ball only cycle with proper pct and anti e's for an example?

 

[daveyboy2345]

25 mgs day for 4-6 weeks, with .5 mg a-dex Mon, Wed, Fri. throughout.

20 mgs nolvadex for 21 days post cycle.

 

[Cal_21]

I have been off for short while now and have kept my gains hell look at my pic in the avatar. tell me I didny keep my gains.

lololololololol

 

[raider187]

Good Stuff...

I'm in wk 2 of a VAR only cycle and loving life. I belive I will be doing another cycle in six months time if this works. I can't wait until week 5.

The goal is to have the body comp of a fighter not a BBer.

Raider187

 

[mattdan]

Good Stuff...

The goal is to have the body comp of a fighter not a BBer.

Raider187

That's exactly my point. Not everyone has the same goals. For someone to tell you you're wrong for doing anav only cycles with your goals is simply not right.

 

[holy ghost]

raider are you doing any MMA or anything

 

[raider187]

raider are you doing any MMA or anything

I'm a wrestler that also practices JU Jitsu / Muay Thai. I started training again last year... It's been a rough road back, I have been in the corporate arena for too long.

It's pretty funny showing up to work with new bruises every week.

 

[hyp1]

For a long time I couldn't figure out why everyone on this site is so down on oral only cycles. I've been doing this shit for over 20 years and this "oral only cycles are ALWAYS wrong" attitude is pretty recent and not always correct.

If finally hit me why everyone is so negative on them. Most of the people on this board are BB'ers. BB'ers define "gains" differently than performance atheletes, which I was. I've been both a pro football player and an amateur power lifter.

Take a d.bol only cycle for example. Yes, you lose most of the weight gains - BUT you keep most of the strength gains. Now while this may not be ideal for a BB'er, it may be absolutely ideal for a boxer, an MMA fighter, power lifter, etc.

These guys usually don't want to gain weight because it moves them up a weight class. So for them an anavar or Halotestin - fluoxymesterone - only cycle may be absolutely ideal.

Now my first cycle was a d.bol only cycle. Like I said, it was over 20 years ago so my memory is a little fuzzy, but as I recall I kept well over 10 lbs of muscle gain and lost a lot of fat. I also kept well over 75 lb gain in my bench and over 100lb gains in deadlift, squats, etc.

No while that's not ground breaking, it was well worth the 6 weeks and roughly $100.00 (est.) total I spent. I would be far from calling it a waste of time.

So here's the bottom line - Before anyone starts saying that oral only cycles are ALWAYS wrong, get more info.

Maybe the guy doesn't WANT to gain more than 10 lbs. Is that wrong? Of course not. So if it's not wrong, why is the poor guy flamed? Maybe it's personal reasons, maybe it's professional reasons, maybe it's the sport he's involved in.

Now if the guy wants to gain 30 or more lbs, oral only cycles are clearly not the best way to go.

If he simply wants a performace enhancment, or strength gain and doesn't want to gain a lot of weight - an oral only cycle may work just fine.

And please don't tell me you can't keep any of your gains. I've been there, done that, and know the truth from first hand experience.

why am I so against people praising oral only cycles?in case you haven't noticed lately there has been shitloads of underaged teenagers thinking that by just popping some pills they can blow up in size and retain all of their size and strength gains which imo is entirely bullshit.they don't think about the damage that it can do to their bodies like permanently suppressing their natural testosterone production or sealing their bones growth plates.they also don't study about how long to do these supposedly miracle oral only mass cycles.they don't study about post cycle therapy,aromatase inhibitor's or serms they don't have a clue and really don't care.HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - during post cycle therapy isn't even thought about because that requires injections and most of them are scared shitless of pins to begin with.if you're in doubt of what I'm saying read a bit of this thread and you will see

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/dianabol-anabol-users-562067.html

anyone giving steroid cycle information to underage teenagers should have their fucking head checked.

 

[heavy_duty]

Why do any of you care what teenagers do?
you KNOW they are doing weed, coke, XTC, uppers, downers WTF???
AINT FUCK ALL you can do about it man!

 

[raider187]

why am I so against people praising oral only cycles?in case you haven't noticed lately there has been shitloads of underaged teenagers thinking that by just popping some pills they can blow up in size and retain all of their size and strength gains which imo is entirely bullshit.they don't think about the damage that it can do to their bodies like permanently suppressing their natural testosterone production or sealing their bones growth plates.they also don't study about how long to do these supposedly miracle oral only mass cycles.they don't study about post cycle therapy,aromatase inhibitor's or serms they don't have a clue and really don't care.HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - during post cycle therapy isn't even thought about because that requires injections and most of them are scared shitless of pins to begin with.if you're in doubt of what I'm saying read a bit of this thread and you will see

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/dianabol-anabol-users-562067.html

anyone giving steroid cycle information to underage teenagers should have their fucking head checked.

Your a responsible bro... I know you rarely give out advice about orals. I don't always agree with your stand when I read your posts, but I know your heart is in the right place. I think most of the teens are looking for the magic pill, they get impulsive and end up screwing there hormones, sort of a Tunnel Vision syndrome.