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The End of Faith

Lestat said:
I have no problem with marriage, or the divorce rate.. what is irrational about it? There have been marriages that have lasted lifetimes, its proven, I wouldn't say DON'T get married because there is a chance you get divorce.. i'd say get married because there is a chance you could end up happy!

"To believe without proof" you said it all right there.. why is this acceptable in today's society??????? Are we still fucking cavemen and have to guess about everything? If someone believed that Posiedon ruled the sea, would you respect that person?
Fuck no. We all know its Aquaman.
 
EnderJE said:
cool..I'll have to check it out.

I can see your point about believing by faith alone. It does seem crazy.

If someone came back and said he was Jesus, we'd shoot him in Wako.
unless he started performing miracles, and we finally had the PROOF we needed... I can say that almost EVERYONE would be a Christian if we had a guy show up, claim to be jesus, and start commanding full control of the elements, working miracles as described in the bible (raising people from the dead, water into wine, healing blindness and leaprosy, etc).

All we have now are the stories.. the writing of other MEN... no real proof...

also, we are pretty ignorant here in the US as to christianity and the bible... the translations are hardly accurate.. original texts are not available... and they were in hebrew with no vowels.. and keep in mind when these scrolls were transcribed from place to place it was by hand.. think of all the typos you make typing.. now thing of how many times these things were copies by hand... they are riddled with significant errors.
 
Lestat said:
Needtogetas:

I don't know if you have any knowledge about the Inquisition or the Salem witch trials.. both are instances where violence was used against those who believes in other gods... in the case of the salem witch trials, simply being old, infirm, and ugly was your death sentence.
yes there are manny cassis were people kild other people in the name of god.
yes people will look down on you and think less of you if you dont believe in god.for the most part cristoins are the bigest hipacrits on the face of the earth.most are self senterd and only care how they look in front of other people.and allmost all of them dont know there as from there elbo when it comes to the bible.when it comes to what god is realy like.what he realy wants most cistoins havent got a clue.there even more wors of then non beleavers.but if you ever met a real true beleaver.some one filed with the holy spirit,not just clameing to be you would know that they would never ever do anny thing like this.they would let you kick them in the face then give you the shirt of there back.they are well manerd and speek nothing but good things about evry one good or bad.they pray for there enamys and give to them what ever they need.yes they make mistakes but they are humble about them the admit them and ask god to help them with them.
sadly i am not like this and not many people are but they are out there i have met a few.
 
needtogetas said:
yes there are manny cassis were people kild other people in the name of god.
yes people will look down on you and think less of you if you dont believe in god.for the most part cristoins are the bigest hipacrits on the face of the earth.most are self senterd and only care how they look in front of other people.and allmost all of them dont know there as from there elbo when it comes to the bible.when it comes to what god is realy like.what he realy wants most cistoins havent got a clue.there even more wors of then non beleavers.but if you ever met a real true beleaver.some one filed with the holy spirit,not just clameing to be you would know that they would never ever do anny thing like this.they would let you kick them in the face then give you the shirt of there back.they are well manerd and speek nothing but good things about evry one good or bad.they pray for there enamys and give to them what ever they need.yes they make mistakes but they are humble about them the admit them and ask god to help them with them.
sadly i am not like this and not many people are but they are out there i have met a few.
and because of that you feel guilty.. religion is great at making people feel guilty for no reason man... you don't need religion to be a good person.
 
Sounds like a religious book.
 
Lestat said:
how many of you christians really follow the Bible? If you think so, please read this passage and tell me if you REALLY follow the Bible:


If your brother, the son of your father or of your mother, or your son or daughter, or the spouse whom you embrace, or your most intimate friend, tries to secretly seduce you, saying, “Let us go and serve other gods,” unknown to you or your ancestors before you, gods of the peoples surrounding you, whether near you or far away, anywhere throughout the world, you must not consent, you must not listen to him; you must show him no pity, you must not spare him or conceal his guilt. No, you must kill him, your hand must strike the first blow in putting him to death and the hands of the rest of the people following. You must stone him to death, since he has tried to divert you from Yahweh your God. . . .(Deuteronomy 13:7–11)
and let me tell you another thing.god was talking to the isralits as a nation.a new nation.in those times it was nessasery to be this way.it was alote more ruthless day in age.if the isralits did not live like this and the hole natoin dident live for god they would br crushed by others with othere faths and othere typs of religoins ether by the sword or by just fading out by the constant migling with other natoins and other religoins.this camand was not for cristains as a hole and espataly not for anny one now.

and ferther more when the people came and brote marry to him saying she is a hore we should ston her he said"let him who is with out sin cast the first stone. dos that sound like some one who want cristains to kill people now.hell no it dont.
 
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