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The "Benoit" connection?

easynow4321

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The main thing that I think a lot of you are forgetting is that even though they aren't really related, all of these UGL busts are happening in response to political pressure stemming from the Benoit murder/suicide case. I mean, for days and weeks after that happened, all you ever saw on Nancy Grace or any other CNN program was some politician blasting steroid use or steroids in general. Sure, this DEA probe has been going on for years, and was bound to materialize into busts and arrests whether the Benoit thing happened or not. But, when it did happen, tons of pressure was put on the government to "clean up" the use and abuse problem of illegal steroids. First, the obvious happened. Benoit's doctor was indicted, along with numerous
others. And now this. It's no coincidence. Anytime someone, especially someone famous, kills his wife and little boy, then commits suicide; and it is blamed on an illegal substance, you can bet the farm that there is going to be a crackdown on whatever illegal substance it was. Lets face it. The average American who knows little or nothing about AAS is looking at that case and going..."Oh my God! Those steroids made that man kill his family!" And beleive me, the majority of the American public thinks that. And there are other things that come into play as well. Such as the fact that China is hosting the 2008 Olympic games. This, more than likely, gave the US government a lot of leverage in getting the Chinese government to cooperate with the probe. Which, without their cooperation, would have been impossible. Which brings us to now. Even though people are going to hear about these recent busts, it isn't enough to make the average American feel satisfied that enough has been done about "the problem". So, I would imagine that this is just the tip of the iceberg. That there are going to be more happenings of the same sort, and not just dealing with UGL's. AAS and the means of being able to acquire them in general, whether legally or illegally
is going to suffer substantial setbacks. But then again, this will only be temporary. It happened with alcohol prohibition in the 20's, with LSD in the 60's, cocaine and crack in the 80's, ecxtacy in the early 00's, and more recently with methamphetamine. But it always blows over or something
bigger and more important comes along and takes it's place. This though, is in no way a nationwide epidemic like all of those were. It has merely been brought into the public eye and raised above average concern due to recent events. Not to mention that from what I have seen, it looks like
pretty much everyone who got popped was openly advertising on the internet. They made their own beds, and now they have to lay in them. I mean come on, how long do you think you can last doing that sort
of thing? The feds can figure out and track an IP address quicker than you or I can send a Western Union payment. Especially a domestic one. Unless you know what you are doing as far as computer networking is concerned, you aren't going to know how to keep that from happening. All I am saying is that anyone who has been dealing with this stuff on a large enough scale and hasn't been "smart" about it, is going to know it soon. The average guy who simply uses AAS isn't going to feel a thing. If you've been ordering $10,000.00 a month on the other hand, I would definitely clean house. But in reality, if you want AAS, you will always be able to get them. You just might have to look a little harder, and be a bit more careful than before.
 
Good post bro, I enjoy'd that reading and agree... does make a lot of sense and is a good connection point you have there. What america wants, the people, the dea and LE will find a way to shut the people up. This has been going on for a while now where the public has spoken on pro athletes using steroids and how the game is tainted. Now they can feel like the gov is actually doing something about it and we are getting somewhere with this. I don't agree. As long as people want it, people will be there to supply it. I've heard alot about them sources posting on open source boards which is not a smart idea. I learned quick and fast how to never talk to anyone even using a yahoo email or hotmail or anything unless it was family. Encription email may be a thing of the past but is still up in the air. Idk how long this will last but hopefully it will quiet down in the next few months and everything will be alright again for the most part. I feel bad for a lot of the folks who's sources got busted cause it's tough finding sources but will be even tougher now. Idk how this is going to work, but sources will not be shared unless there is some sort of real good connections going on which is a hard thing to do on the internet. idk.. it's messed up
 
bro,

this has nothing to do with the Benoit case. This has been going on for over 18 months. You can really blame those asshats in professional baseball (and other sports) that screwed things up and put the spotlight on the steroid community. Benoit is only a point in which the politicians and the talking heads on the network news, and opera-type shows (for ratings) have been using to fuel their fire to bring more attention to this. Deaths in wrestling has been going on for over 10 years and it's more than just steroids. Most of these guys were killed by recreational drugs, like Benoit. He was addicted to valium, somas and opiates, plus he had mental illness. They just used the steroid topic to get what they want - allbeit ratings or re-election..

And, on top of it, it doesn't help when steroid sites are publicly posting sources, it's almost like saying to the LE community, "IN YOUR FACE!" and now, this is what's going on, we're reaping the whirlwind. I blame the morons in sports like Barry bonds, maguire, etc. they're the ones who brought this into attention by cheating which pissed off everyone, and thus, brought it into the eyes of the politicians and it just snowballed from there. Just think, if those morons who played baseball weren't using steroids - cheating - this would have never happened, imho.
 
sparetire said:
bro,

this has nothing to do with the Benoit case. This has been going on for over 18 months. You can really blame those asshats in professional baseball (and other sports) that screwed things up and put the spotlight on the steroid community. Benoit is only a point in which the politicians and the talking heads on the network news, and opera-type shows (for ratings) have been using to fuel their fire to bring more attention to this. Deaths in wrestling has been going on for over 10 years and it's more than just steroids. Most of these guys were killed by recreational drugs, like Benoit. He was addicted to valium, somas and opiates, plus he had mental illness. They just used the steroid topic to get what they want - allbeit ratings or re-election..

And, on top of it, it doesn't help when steroid sites are publicly posting sources, it's almost like saying to the LE community, "IN YOUR FACE!" and now, this is what's going on, we're reaping the whirlwind. I blame the morons in sports like Barry bonds, maguire, etc. they're the ones who brought this into attention by cheating which pissed off everyone, and thus, brought it into the eyes of the politicians and it just snowballed from there. Just think, if those morons who played baseball weren't using steroids - cheating - this would have never happened, imho.
AMEN !!
 
I have to say also that this has nothing to do with Benoit. The investigations started back in 2005. It takes years to nail a person - even a small time crook. The cops have to have every damn base covered otherwise evidence is thrown out and crooks walk free.
 
yes it would have happened sooner or later but bonds and benoit brought it to a head and now america thinks the dea are gods for busting these UG labs so quickly (no but those on these boards knew what was happening for the past two years.)
 
Again it has nothing to do with Benoit.
It was a natural progression.
They even mentioned working on this for over two years.
Add to the fact that almost a year ago the two major suppliers of powder went down in China. They both had their files turned over to our government.
China was not screwing around with the Olympics coming up and only wanted good press for cooperating.
 
i agree bro.. this is a good post. it shocked the hell out of me when i heard about all of this happening but then again it didn't. back to the drawing board i guess
 
sparetire said:
bro,

this has nothing to do with the Benoit case. This has been going on for over 18 months. You can really blame those asshats in professional baseball (and other sports) that screwed things up and put the spotlight on the steroid community. Benoit is only a point in which the politicians and the talking heads on the network news, and opera-type shows (for ratings) have been using to fuel their fire to bring more attention to this. Deaths in wrestling has been going on for over 10 years and it's more than just steroids. Most of these guys were killed by recreational drugs, like Benoit. He was addicted to valium, somas and opiates, plus he had mental illness. They just used the steroid topic to get what they want - allbeit ratings or re-election..

And, on top of it, it doesn't help when steroid sites are publicly posting sources, it's almost like saying to the LE community, "IN YOUR FACE!" and now, this is what's going on, we're reaping the whirlwind. I blame the morons in sports like Barry bonds, maguire, etc. they're the ones who brought this into attention by cheating which pissed off everyone, and thus, brought it into the eyes of the politicians and it just snowballed from there. Just think, if those morons who played baseball weren't using steroids - cheating - this would have never happened, imho.


All I meant was that it played into it. I never said that it was the cause. I even stated that the probe had been going on for years probably (year and a half), and would have happened whether the Benoit thing happened or not. This is very true. But since it did happen, I gaurantee it lent a helping hand into all of this.
 
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