The #1 Cortisol Blocker

[Primordial Performance]

EF members,

Cortisol can catabolize muscle and testicular tissue leading to smaller muscles and lower testosterone levels. That’s why it’s desirable to suppress, or at least control cortisol levels. The most important time to guard you body against the effects of cortisol is during PCT when Testosterone levels are low, and cortisol can easily dominate and wreck havoc on the body. (Testosterone is a primary antagonist of cortisol)

Many cortisol blocking supplements on the market include one of the many DHEA metabolites such as 7-keto DHEA (7-oxo DHEA), 7-beta DHEA or androstenetriol. Short term studies have shown that these pro-hormone based cortisol blockers can lower LH & FSH thus inhibiting natural testosterone production. (1,2) While these may be useful supplements during a cycle, they should be avoided for PCT.

Phosphatidylserine (PS) is a ‘non-hormonal’ cortisol blocker that can effectively lower cortisol levels. Rather than lowering testosterone production, PS can actually increase testosterone production. (3,4) PS works by reducing CRH and ACTH release from the pituitary, thus reducing cortisol release from the adrenal glands.

Unfortunately PS has been prohibitively expensive, until now. In order to bring you the most affordable PS on the net, we are offering a month’s supply of PS (800mg/day) for only 47.99 – AKA EndoAmp.

Plus…

- Take an additional 10% off with the code SPONSOR10!

And…

- Get free 2-3 day priority shipping when you spend over $100!

Thank you loyal Primordial fans!

-Pp



1. Effects of Transdermal Application of 7-oxo-DHEA on the Levels of Steroid Hormones, Gonadotropins and Lipids in Healthy Men.
J Sulcova, et al.
Institute of Endocrinology 50: 9-18, 2001

2. Delayed effects of short-term transdermal application of 7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone on its metabolites, some hormonal steroids and relevant proteohormones in healthy male volunteers
Jarmila Sulcova, et al.
Institute of Endoacrinology 43 (2):221-227 2005

3. HORMONAL EFFECTS OF PHOSPHATIDYLSERINE DURING 2-WKS OF INTENSE WEIGHT TRAINING [Annual Meeting Abstracts]
Fahey, T. D.; Pearl, M.
California State University, Chico


4. Blunting by chronic phosphatidylserine administration of the stress-induced activation of the hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis in healthy men.
Monteleone et al.
Eur J Clin Pharmacol 1992, 42(4):385-388

 

[swole]

Definitely something I want to try.

When is the optimal time to take EndoAmp? PWO? Morning? Should bigger guys (200+ lbs) take more than 1 5ml scoop daily?

 

[Ross]

Sick product!!!

Reducing cortisol creates a MAJOR anabolic punch! Great job as always Eric!

 

[Primordial Performance]

Definitely something I want to try.

When is the optimal time to take EndoAmp? PWO? Morning? Should bigger guys (200+ lbs) take more than 1 5ml scoop daily?

I like to take it right after my workouts, mixed with my protein shake. Or, first thing in the morning on non-workout days.

The full 800mg dose is plenty. In fact you could feasibly take less and still notice the same results.

-Pp

 

[bw1]

Definitely something I want to try.

When is the optimal time to take EndoAmp? PWO? Morning? Should bigger guys (200+ lbs) take more than 1 5ml scoop daily?

+1

 

[ceo]

Definitely something I want to try.

When is the optimal time to take EndoAmp? PWO? Morning? Should bigger guys (200+ lbs) take more than 1 5ml scoop daily?

I'd say pre-workout, since it tends to act primarily on exercise induced cortisol. The only abstract I could find with a quick search that gave any idea of when PS was administered was this one:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

which says, "Pretreatment with both 50 and 75 mg BC-PS significantly blunted the ACTH and cortisol responses to physical stress."

That dose may look low, but it was given IV in this case. 800mg is the usual studied/effective dose when used in studies relating to exercise induced cortisol responses.

 

[galaxy]

Great idea for PCT for sure.

 

[needtogetaas]

I like to take it right after my workouts, mixed with my protein shake. Or, first thing in the morning on non-workout days.

The full 800mg dose is plenty. In fact you could feasibly take less and still notice the same results.

-Pp

I have been eating it all by it self in the morning. Taste kind of nutty Is not bad at all.

 

[ceo]

I have been eating it all by it self in the morning. Taste kind of nutty Is not bad at all.

kinda has the consistency of a fine cornmeal...tastes a bit like cornmeal too. Oh, Eric? Maybe next time leave a little room at the top of the container (airspace) for those of us with not so steady hands.

I tried like hell not to spill any from the newly opened tin (filled to the brim), but I did spill a tiny bit (which I ate off the counter).

I think it's best to take it solo and chase it down with juice or whatever, as it doesn't seem to mix very well.

 

[Primordial Performance]

kinda has the consistency of a fine cornmeal...tastes a bit like cornmeal too. Oh, Eric? Maybe next time leave a little room at the top of the container (airspace) for those of us with not so steady hands.

I tried like hell not to spill any from the newly opened tin (filled to the brim), but I did spill a tiny bit (which I ate off the counter).

I think it's best to take it solo and chase it down with juice or whatever, as it doesn't seem to mix very well.

I know... its packed a bit tight. We are getting bigger containers.

Try to loosen it up as much as possible before dosing though.

-Pp

 

[Slyder190]

This product is nothing new, It's been out for mad long and never took off. and can anyone guess why that is? Couldn't hurt to throw in to PCT, but let's be realistic.

 

[ceo]

This product is nothing new, It's been out for mad long and never took off. and can anyone guess why that is? Couldn't hurt to throw in to PCT, but let's be realistic.

There's science behind it and it has worked (measureably) in several studies. You're right, PS is not new, but Eric wasn't saying it was new.

I personally don't feel it is a waste to take it...certainly while not cycling and certainly now that it's available at less than half the cost you can find it elsewhere.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

"...S-PtdSer 800 mg/day reduced the cortisol response to overtraining during weight training while improving feeling of well-being and decreasing perceived muscle soreness."

 

[Primordial Performance]

This product is nothing new, It's been out for mad long and never took off. and can anyone guess why that is? Couldn't hurt to throw in to PCT, but let's be realistic.

No PS sure isnt new, but now its finaly affordable for guys to use.

-Pp

 

[ceo]

No PS sure isnt new, but now its finaly affordable for guys to use.

-Pp

Repost!

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

can't vouch for your product ...but I've using PS for blocking cortisol for a few years now ..and YES it absolutely does make a difference!!

 

[Primordial Performance]

can't vouch for your product ...but I've using PS for blocking cortisol for a few years now ..and YES it absolutely does make a difference!!

Thats good to know...

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

EF members,

Cortisol can catabolize muscle and testicular tissue leading to smaller muscles and lower testosterone levels. That’s why it’s desirable to suppress, or at least control cortisol levels. The most important time to guard you body against the effects of cortisol is during PCT when Testosterone levels are low, and cortisol can easily dominate and wreck havoc on the body. (Testosterone is a primary antagonist of cortisol)

Many cortisol blocking supplements on the market include one of the many DHEA metabolites such as 7-keto DHEA (7-oxo DHEA), 7-beta DHEA or androstenetriol. Short term studies have shown that these pro-hormone based cortisol blockers can lower LH & FSH thus inhibiting natural testosterone production. (1,2) While these may be useful supplements during a cycle, they should be avoided for PCT.

Phosphatidylserine (PS) is a ‘non-hormonal’ cortisol blocker that can effectively lower cortisol levels. Rather than lowering testosterone production, PS can actually increase testosterone production. (3,4) PS works by reducing CRH and ACTH release from the pituitary, thus reducing cortisol release from the adrenal glands.

Unfortunately PS has been prohibitively expensive, until now. In order to bring you the most affordable PS on the net, we are offering a month’s supply of PS (800mg/day) for only 47.99 – AKA EndoAmp.

Plus…

- Take an additional 10% off with the code SPONSOR10!

And…

- Get free 2-3 day priority shipping when you spend over $100!

Thank you loyal Primordial fans!

-Pp



1. Effects of Transdermal Application of 7-oxo-DHEA on the Levels of Steroid Hormones, Gonadotropins and Lipids in Healthy Men.
J Sulcova, et al.
Institute of Endocrinology 50: 9-18, 2001

2. Delayed effects of short-term transdermal application of 7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone on its metabolites, some hormonal steroids and relevant proteohormones in healthy male volunteers
Jarmila Sulcova, et al.
Institute of Endoacrinology 43 (2):221-227 2005

3. HORMONAL EFFECTS OF PHOSPHATIDYLSERINE DURING 2-WKS OF INTENSE WEIGHT TRAINING [Annual Meeting Abstracts]
Fahey, T. D.; Pearl, M.
California State University, Chico


4. Blunting by chronic phosphatidylserine administration of the stress-induced activation of the hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis in healthy men.
Monteleone et al.
Eur J Clin Pharmacol 1992, 42(4):385-388

I love pp threads.

 

[halfcenturian]

I get PS at Vit Cott for 39.99 ???

 

[Primordial Performance]

I get PS at Vit Cott for 39.99 ???

How much PS?

-Pp

 

[halfcenturian]

How much PS?

-Pp

50 softgels Phoshphatidyl Serine @ 100mg ea.

 

[needtogetaas]

50 softgels Phoshphatidyl Serine @ 100mg ea.

lol compared to pp's 800mg/day for 30 days ) for only 47.99 wow. pp blows that price out of the water.

 

[ceo]

I had already thought I found the best price on PS I could. PP's PS was about half the cost of the best price I could find.

 

[halfcenturian]

lol compared to pp's 800mg/day for 30 days ) for only 47.99 wow. pp blows that price out of the water.

The EF board has turned into a giant commercial. What a shame.

 

[jock52]

The EF board has turned into a giant commercial. What a shame.

How can you say that? Just people educating others on products. You don't have to read the thread if you don't want.

 

[halfcenturian]

How can you say that? Just people educating others on products. You don't have to read the thread if you don't want.

That's not the point Mr. 45 posts.
You don't know me...and don't want to chomp me! Be cool.
You don't see it? This was the best Forum around...
now it's a flea market for BB supplements.

 

[cobracock1979]

That's not the point Mr. 45 posts.
You don't know me...and don't want to chomp me! Be cool.
You don't see it? This was the best Forum around...
now it's a flea market for BB supplements.

Whats the suggested amount to take during PCT+when start and how long for.

How long is shipping to UK? Been thinking of trying PS anyway for PCT - may as well get it from someone at EF and throw something back in the pot!

 

[ottorobotto]

Would PS be useful for a natty? Or is its purpose mainly for pct for users? Also if it is effective for natties is the doseage necessary for results the same as listed?thanks in advance.

 

[str8nubin]

Hey otto, this would be great for anyone. Cortisol is a major enemy of growth.

I've always been aware of cortisol but not ps, and its great that I was just able to click on a thread and find the best price on the product from a solid company

I don't mind the cobs being here at all... Companies like primordial, agx, protein factory could really come together for a mean legal stack and I don't mean the kind you get at vitamin shoppe

Matter of fact someone reccomended this to me a while ago but I forgot the product name

Now would using ps 2-3 months have any effect on strength of joints, tendons, or other connective tissues?

 

[juggy54]

pp you keep this up and some day you'll single-handedly make aas obsolete lol.

p.s-everything i have ever used from pp has surpassed my expectations. great bro.

 

[Selfcentor]

EF members,

Cortisol can catabolize muscle and testicular tissue leading to smaller muscles and lower testosterone levels. That’s why it’s desirable to suppress, or at least control cortisol levels. The most important time to guard you body against the effects of cortisol is during PCT when Testosterone levels are low, and cortisol can easily dominate and wreck havoc on the body. (Testosterone is a primary antagonist of cortisol)

Many cortisol blocking supplements on the market include one of the many DHEA metabolites such as 7-keto DHEA (7-oxo DHEA), 7-beta DHEA or androstenetriol. Short term studies have shown that these pro-hormone based cortisol blockers can lower LH & FSH thus inhibiting natural testosterone production. (1,2) While these may be useful supplements during a cycle, they should be avoided for PCT.

Phosphatidylserine (PS) is a ‘non-hormonal’ cortisol blocker that can effectively lower cortisol levels. Rather than lowering testosterone production, PS can actually increase testosterone production. (3,4) PS works by reducing CRH and ACTH release from the pituitary, thus reducing cortisol release from the adrenal glands.

Unfortunately PS has been prohibitively expensive, until now. In order to bring you the most affordable PS on the net, we are offering a month’s supply of PS (800mg/day) for only 47.99 – AKA EndoAmp.

Plus…

- Take an additional 10% off with the code SPONSOR10!

And…

- Get free 2-3 day priority shipping when you spend over $100!

Thank you loyal Primordial fans!

-Pp



1. Effects of Transdermal Application of 7-oxo-DHEA on the Levels of Steroid Hormones, Gonadotropins and Lipids in Healthy Men.
J Sulcova, et al.
Institute of Endocrinology 50: 9-18, 2001

2. Delayed effects of short-term transdermal application of 7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone on its metabolites, some hormonal steroids and relevant proteohormones in healthy male volunteers
Jarmila Sulcova, et al.
Institute of Endoacrinology 43 (2):221-227 2005

3. HORMONAL EFFECTS OF PHOSPHATIDYLSERINE DURING 2-WKS OF INTENSE WEIGHT TRAINING [Annual Meeting Abstracts]
Fahey, T. D.; Pearl, M.
California State University, Chico


4. Blunting by chronic phosphatidylserine administration of the stress-induced activation of the hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis in healthy men.
Monteleone et al.
Eur J Clin Pharmacol 1992, 42(4):385-388

Is this true if you get cortisone injections for your joints? It still has the same muslce effects?

 

[Primordial Performance]

Is this true if you get cortisone injections for your joints? It still has the same muslce effects?

Yes, and it lowers testosterone. In fact, guys that are on chronic corticosterone therapy usually find themself hypogonadal sooner or later.

-Pp

 

[Primordial Performance]

Cobra,

The suggested amount is 800mg of pure PS daily for at least a month, but you can stay on PS as long as you like. You want to start PCT when the AAS’s are mostly cleared from the system.

EndoAmp can ship to the UK no problem.

Ottorobotto,

Yes, PS is actually pretty popular with natty guys because its one of the few things that isn’t banned by the NCAA or natural bodybuilding organizations. PCT use is just one of the meny options.

Str8nubin,

PS isn’t going to reduce cortisol enough to cause joint pain or any sort of related problem.

-Pp

 

[cobracock1979]

Cobra,

The suggested amount is 800mg of pure PS daily for at least a month, but you can stay on PS as long as you like. You want to start PCT when the AAS’s are mostly cleared from the system.

EndoAmp can ship to the UK no problem.

Ottorobotto,

Yes, PS is actually pretty popular with natty guys because its one of the few things that isn’t banned by the NCAA or natural bodybuilding organizations. PCT use is just one of the meny options.

Str8nubin,

PS isn’t going to reduce cortisol enough to cause joint pain or any sort of related problem.

-Pp

PP - how long does it take to get to the UK?

 

[Primordial Performance]

PP - how long does it take to get to the UK?

With priority shipping its about 7-10 days, and about 2-3 days with express.

-Pp

 

[muscleup]

I have heard that PS if overused can have irreversable side effects and I have always been weary of it...I recently have been under a ton of stress and IMO I can see a little fat gain in my lowerback and I would assume it is from cortisol. Is 800mgs per day an actual safe doseage ??? Is there a tapering that goes with this product ???

You may have already answered these questions, but I just skimmed over the whole thread...LOL

 

[Primordial Performance]

I have heard that PS if overused can have irreversable side effects and I have always been weary of it...I recently have been under a ton of stress and IMO I can see a little fat gain in my lowerback and I would assume it is from cortisol. Is 800mgs per day an actual safe doseage ??? Is there a tapering that goes with this product ???

You may have already answered these questions, but I just skimmed over the whole thread...LOL

PS is basically a food ... I couldnt possibly image what side effects would occur from this product even at a super high dose.

800mg is a safe dose and a number of studies have been completed with humans using this same dose. No need to taper either.

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

Yup.

 

[Primordial Performance]

The new EndoAmp Max is here -

Phosphatidylserine for Reducing the Stress Hormone Cortisol

-Eric

 

[dmc777]

Is your website currently down Eric? Is your product a blend or strictly 800mgs of Phosphatidylserine? I've used ps in all of my pcts and I'm thinking about switiching over from my current brand to yours. Also, what are your thoughts on Alpha GPC during pct.

Alpha-Glyceryl Phosphoryl Choline

 

[Primordial Performance]

Is your website currently down Eric? Is your product a blend or strictly 800mgs of Phosphatidylserine? I've used ps in all of my pcts and I'm thinking about switiching over from my current brand to yours. Also, what are your thoughts on Alpha GPC during pct.

Alpha-Glyceryl Phosphoryl Choline

It shouldnt be down... is the link not opening the product page?

Alpha-GPC would be perfect for PCT... thats why we included it into the EndoAmp Max, which is included in the TRS now.

-Eric

 

[dmc777]

It shouldnt be down... is the link not opening the product page?

Alpha-GPC would be perfect for PCT... thats why we included it into the EndoAmp Max, which is included in the TRS now.

-Eric

Yes It's opening now. Wow looks like you're products are the same as what I've using, according to the trademark, just a little more potent. guess I'll be picking up the whole TRS stack now.

 

[needtogetaas]

Guys pp's cla is super cheap and so is the endoamp. Big time cheap but I can make it even cheaper if you pm me for a discount

 

[Jimbo15]

Guys pp's cla is super cheap and so is the endoamp. Big time cheap but I can make it even cheaper if you pm me for a discount

you still stock both of these?

 

[Jimbo15]

EndoAmp Max is 20% off right now guys.

 

[RADAR]

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[Jimbo15]

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sweet banner bro

 

[Jimbo15]

EndoAmp Max is 20% off right now guys.

48 hours left on this deal guys....