That test prop soreness

[shark blaster]

About 10 hours after my first test prop shot I started getting that well known soreness in my glute. it's been about 36 hours now and I'm getting ready for my next shot, but that glute is still sore as a bitch. the thing is, it's not so sore in the glute muscle itself, but it has spread to the dimple in my lower back above my glute and it is really painful. Is that because I injected too close to it? there is barely any soreness at the injection site but that dimple on my lower back is where it really hurts. you think 50 mg ed would be more manageable than 100 eod? injecitons are smooth as hell, its just that delayed onset soreness that's getting me. I'm going to do legs today and see how I manage

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Sounds like either PIIP. Or Sounds like you got a bad batch of homebrew.... If you Doing ED injection your going to have to learn how to rotate your injections sites. You cant hit the same injection site EOD or ED for that matter without causing a knot. Contiues use to the same spot well also leave nasty scar tissue which in turn can become cancerous... Id go Glute,Glute, Delt, Delt, Quad, Quad... make sure your familiar with injections Sites... Hitting a nerve itself can lead to paralysis of a limb, or worse, amputation. Injecting into a vein can be just as deadly as Test will be like a strait shot of adrenalin to the heart, the other compounds are only more toxic. if all else fails, u need to see the attention of a health care physician for further diagnosis... Happy pinning
Johnny

 

[shark blaster]

what is PIIP? i hit my other glute today, will move on to delts for the next round. it also looks like there is a small bruise right on the dimple i was talking about. I don't think it's a bad batch (I hope!) but soreness is relatively common with prop from what I understand.

 

[fullpull]

I am using 1cc ew of sust 250 and have experienced exactly what you are talking about. The pain migrated into my lower back/upper tailbone and it was quite painful for well over a week. it eventually subsided but every injection has been pretty painful on days 2-5.

I tried prop in the past but had to shut down after 3 pins because the pain was debilitating...i could barely move and forget about sitting down! The sust pain is definitely more manageable but it is still there!

Good luck!

 

[shark blaster]

ok, so I am not crazy. any idea what causes that? I am slightly worried now because the area feels warm to the touch and I read that can be a sign of infection. it also only seems to hurt when i press on it or lean against something. I am on minocycline (a tetracycline antibiotic) for my skin so that should probably control an infection, but how long do I wait and what do I look for before I throw in the towel and see a doc. I did leg workout today and the soreness was there but didn't stop me from lifting, so I am going to fight through the pain and keep pinning. I just hope I didnt get a f*cking infection on my first pin.

 

[fullpull]

I don't know what caused it but the soreness was just like you say. i think you will know if you have an infection. don't let the soreness get you paranoid. keep pushing forward!!

 

[Ripp42]

Research Prop pain. Prop isn't really soulable. Short ester is what causes the pain has nothing to do with how its cut! Prop pain can last a week! Some ppl no pain. Others use additives.

 

[Ripp42]

Sounds like either PIIP. Or Sounds like you got a bad batch of homebrew.... If you Doing ED injection your going to have to learn how to rotate your injections sites. You cant hit the same injection site EOD or ED for that matter without causing a knot. Contiues use to the same spot well also leave nasty scar tissue which in turn can become cancerous... Id go Glute,Glute, Delt, Delt, Quad, Quad... make sure your familiar with injections Sites... Hitting a nerve itself can lead to paralysis of a limb, or worse, amputation. Injecting into a vein can be just as deadly as Test will be like a strait shot of adrenalin to the heart, the other compounds are only more toxic. if all else fails, u need to see the attention of a health care physician for further diagnosis... Happy pinning
Johnny

No such thing as a bad batch. Prop is prop its from the same chains/carbon. Theres only one way to make it and additives you can use to kill the pain or make it tolerable. Some ppl get pain from cypionate everyone is different

 

[swm1972]

Sounds like either PIIP. Or Sounds like you got a bad batch of homebrew.... If you Doing ED injection your going to have to learn how to rotate your injections sites. You cant hit the same injection site EOD or ED for that matter without causing a knot. Contiues use to the same spot well also leave nasty scar tissue which in turn can become cancerous... Id go Glute,Glute, Delt, Delt, Quad, Quad... make sure your familiar with injections Sites... Hitting a nerve itself can lead to paralysis of a limb, or worse, amputation. Injecting into a vein can be just as deadly as Test will be like a strait shot of adrenalin to the heart, the other compounds are only more toxic. if all else fails, u need to see the attention of a health care physician for further diagnosis... Happy pinning
Johnny

I'd personally like to see the medical studies that indicate scar tissue leads to cancer.

 

[graciekiller]

Just gotta eat the pain bro. I experienced the same as you. About 12 hours after shot, the pain feels like a deep bruising, which then turns into a knot...kinda. Sometimes pain isnt as bad, but other times its pretty harsh. Ive also experienced the red, warm, slight swelling on the site injection. On the quad shot days, a day or two later, I walk with a limp, lol.

 

[moya]

how long of a needle are you using? if its too short and you inject too shallow into the muscle it may leak out and cause irritation in the surrounding areas...

then go get some winstrol and inject that shit and you will never complain about any oil again! lol...

 

[Tux]

Oh you think winny is bad huh? Ever shot 150mg/ml test prop in your forearms? Try that and you'll never complain about anything again To be fair, it was a 75/75 mix of t prop/t pp, but still... 150mg/ml of short-ester prop in the belly of the forearm. Maybe it'll stretch the fascia some, maybe not, but at least it gives me another site to hit

 

[moya]

no thanks... i have plenty of sites to use for ED pinning... after getting a massive headache from pinning my right trap i tend to stick with what works...

 

[Tux]

Yeah i pinned my left trap once... about 6 years ago, never had the nerve to try it again. I just got a small sponsorship though, so if I want a bigger one...well, "I" better get bigger so I better sell my sponsor's products! Hmm...time to pin every muscle in the body again I guess Or better yet, just work my ass off with moderate dosages like usual

 

[Judo Tom]

these threads make me glad im a fan of long ester and moderately dosed cycles..

 

[Nelson Montana]

I see no reason to use prop when enth works every bit as well and requires 4 less injections a week.

(Okay, mg per mg prop is a teensy bit stronger 100 mgs of enth = maybe 110 mgs of prop.)

Prop is good for the last couple of weeks before a contest because it maintains T levels with a little less bloating. But if you're not on a time table, it seems senseless -- unless you prerer more shots and more soreness.

 

[Ripp42]

Just gotta eat the pain bro. I experienced the same as you. About 12 hours after shot, the pain feels like a deep bruising, which then turns into a knot...kinda. Sometimes pain isnt as bad, but other times its pretty harsh. Ive also experienced the red, warm, slight swelling on the site injection. On the quad shot days, a day or two later, I walk with a limp, lol.

Prop crashes hours after inject in the body is what I read from a md site

 

[Ripp42]

I see no reason to use prop when enth works every bit as well and requires 4 less injections a week.

(Okay, mg per mg prop is a teensy bit stronger 100 mgs of enth = maybe 110 mgs of prop.)

Prop is good for the last couple of weeks before a contest because it maintains T levels with a little less bloating. But if you're not on a time table, it seems senseless -- unless you prerer more shots and more soreness.

This is true. Its great for tappering or kick starts. Ppl just use it in cutting cycles and for faster results.

 

[gymrat827]

sterile grape seed oil will help if your getting pain with 24hrs after you pin. if it starts 24 hrs post pin than the oil wont help.

 

[shark blaster]

yeah I also heard the soreness is because the prop isn't as soluble so the solvent gets absorbed before all the prop does and it crashes in your muscle. does that mean whatever percentage didnt get absorbed or crashes won't be used by your body? I used a 25g 1" pin for my glutes is that too small? wow haha i am honored montana has graced my thread with his presence. I'm using prop because I'm doing a short cycle and I am on a time table (not for contest though, I play a college sport and want to come off cycle when we start winter practices... good thing too, bc with the soreness from this I doubt I would be able to do the necessary running in the first week of practice). I'm also taking dbol for the first 2 weeks of the cycle, and I'm adding masteron for the last 3 weeks. felt good after my pin yesterday, it's not as sore as my first one. but I feel really lethargic and tired today, and my appetite is not really there. is this test flu?

 

[Ripp42]

yeah I also heard the soreness is because the prop isn't as soluble so the solvent gets absorbed before all the prop does and it crashes in your muscle. does that mean whatever percentage didnt get absorbed or crashes won't be used by your body? I used a 25g 1" pin for my glutes is that too small? wow haha i am honored montana has graced my thread with his presence. I'm using prop because I'm doing a short cycle and I am on a time table (not for contest though, I play a college sport and want to come off cycle when we start winter practices... good thing too, bc with the soreness from this I doubt I would be able to do the necessary running in the first week of practice). I'm also taking dbol for the first 2 weeks of the cycle, and I'm adding masteron for the last 3 weeks. felt good after my pin yesterday, it's not as sore as my first one. but I feel really lethargic and tired today, and my appetite is not really there. is this test flu?

No, it gets absorbs its just the crash that causes pain. You can try heating it up before inject.

Run dbol for first four weeks to make it worth it also masteron for 08 weeks if its aceate. You gotta remember this stuff isnt magic diet rest is the key aas is an aid. Takes time to kick in.

No 1" is good for tris, delts, quads member never pin in the inside of ur legs!

Glutes 1" 1/2 maybe thats why you have the pain ur not going deep enough.

 

[shark blaster]

thx ripp. I heard it was ok to use the 1" in glutes since I am about 9% bf. my right glute still hurts from the first injection. i must have not done it right bc my left glute feels better already. and my shoulder doesnt feel too bad. the masteron is prop so i'm running it shorter... i was under the impression dbol and masteron dont make a good stack bc of the bloat from dbol. you think I should extend the dbol and run them at the same time?

 

[Ripp42]

thx ripp. I heard it was ok to use the 1" in glutes since I am about 9% bf. my right glute still hurts from the first injection. i must have not done it right bc my left glute feels better already. and my shoulder doesnt feel too bad. the masteron is prop so i'm running it shorter... i was under the impression dbol and masteron dont make a good stack bc of the bloat from dbol. you think I should extend the dbol and run them at the same time?

No, prob bud. Yea, maybe jus run dbol 2weeks. Imo i wouldnt run it at all cause of the bloat.

I would just do the Prop and Masteron but run Masteron for a min of 08 weeks

 

[Ripp42]

No where hv i heard cause ur low in bf you can use a smaller needle. Although I wont say its wrong. But then its like well if your 20% you need this size and if your 15% you nd this size ect.... Bout 9 years ago my buddy was prob 08% bf and he used he same needles as everyone which aresome of which I mentioned above.

 

[Ripp42]

Yea, I dnt pay attention to the dbol a d mastron. I wouldnt use dbol save it for a bulker cycle. Imo

 

[Tux]

I love short esters for short cycles... like 4-6wks max. I can make plenty of awesome blends for those short cycles that are very effective and inexpensive. Plus, I can inject them with 1cc, 29g .5in slin pins... even less pain than my normal 1in 25g. Short cycles and short esters have their places, and long as they're done right! When they're done wrong... well, that's when you get these posts

 

[ceo]

fuck prop!