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That Ahmadinejad guy is a Douche of unimaginable proportions

Ludendorf said:
then what were they?
arabs isn't the right word

There was a territory called Palestine under british mandate so my guess is that people there were Palestinians....
 
the Nazi's mainly rounded them up into work camps
same difference
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
It is unlikely the Holocaust will ever be proven. Here's one reason why, out of many-

http://www.rense.com/general62/auch.htm

Auschwitz plaque- 1948-1989:
ausplaq1948.gif

....
Auschwitz plaque- 1989-present:
ausplaq1990.gif






Now, you have to wonder....????


Yeah why trust the nazi records or even first-hand accounts of the liberators.

I have no reason to wonder. My grandfathers fought in WW2.
 
mountain muscle said:
Yeah why trust the nazi records or even first-hand accounts of the liberators.

I have no reason to wonder. My grandfathers fought in WW2.


So did mine, but that doesn't automatically make everything kosher.

Plus, if there are "millions" of nazi records as the ADL says there were on nazi war crimes detailing what went down, then they shouldn't have felt any need to change the number on that plaque.

The winners of a war are the ones who write its history.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
So did mine, but that doesn't automatically make everything kosher.

Plus, if there are "millions" of nazi records as the ADL says there were on nazi war crimes detailing what went down, then they shouldn't have felt any need to change the number on that plaque.

The winners of a war are the ones who write its history.


Hansel are you merely disputing the numbers or that a mass genocide took place?
 
mountain muscle said:
Hansel are you merely disputing the numbers or that a mass genocide took place?


Well, considering they reduced the number of "official" deaths at Auschwitz to "about one and a half million" down from 4 million, there's 2.5 million gone right there. Where did they go? Who decided? The official story here is getting old and quite convoluted. Too much so to buy either side of the story, really. There are even Jews who think this way, or at least deny that there were any gas chambers. Hoess's confession was tortured out of him and made no sense. Historians and scholars have been disputing the Holocaust for over half a century. So much evidence to both sides have likely been doctored and taken out of context that it's likely the truth will never be found.

Until then, this is a stalemate issue for me.




Funny how in Germany I'd get locked up for saying something like that about the only unsubstatiated genocide in history.
How many other genocides do they do that for?
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Well, considering they reduced the number of "official" deaths at Auschwitz to "about one and a half million" down from 4 million, there's 2.5 million gone right there. Where did they go? Who decided? The official story here is getting old and quite convoluted. Too much so to buy either side of the story, really. There are even Jews who think this way, or at least deny that there were any gas chambers. Hoess's confession was tortured out of him and made no sense. Historians and scholars have been disputing the Holocaust for over half a century. So much evidence to both sides have likely been doctored and taken out of context that it's likely the truth will never be found.

Until then, this is a stalemate issue for me.




Funny how in Germany I'd get locked up for saying something like that about the only unsubstatiated genocide in history.
How many other genocides do they do that for?

Israel has never recognized the Armenian genocide and they were also upset when the UN started calling the Rwanda massacre a "genocide".
 
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