Testicular atrophy...dose related?

[jhondo]

I'll explain. I've been on a couple hundred mils of test for a long time without using hcg and haven't experienced any noticeable shrinkage of the balls. And if I understand semi correctly, even 200 mg./wk is enough to shut you down...

...if that is right, does this mean that I'm fortunate enough not to be predisposed to this particular side effect, or does it just mean the dose is too low for it to happen?

 

[ryno9000]

I'll explain. I've been on a couple hundred mils of test for a long time without using hcg and haven't experienced any noticeable shrinkage of the balls. And if I understand semi correctly, even 200 mg./wk is enough to shut you down...

...if that is right, does this mean that I'm fortunate enough not to be predisposed to this particular side effect, or does it just mean the dose is too low for it to happen?

Really too many variables to tell for sure without changing something. If 200mg/wk works well for you, and you aren't shrinking, then I guess no need to change anything and consider yourself lucky. Are you sure it hasn't just been so long that you can't truly "remember" what your balls used to look like?

When I was on prop, and at a lower dose than what I'm at now, I noticed a little but not much. My balls are the smallest thing in the world right now though, and it sucks. Mine also shrink one at a time starting with my right ball. It looks funny but then sure enough the left one plays catch up. I think my penis shrunk too, but that could be my quads finally getting some size. Basically I have reverse aneroxia of the genitals.

 

[Greatercow]

lol yeah i got the sae thing freakin small balls on cycle and i know it must just be me but my penis seems to have shrunken also

 

[RADAR]

Bloodwork is the best way to determine where you stand!

RADAR

 

[access]

I agree with Radar, unless you have bloods done your never going to know for certain either way as your then just supposing but I would surprised if you have not shrunk to some degree as even that amount of test should be shutting you down providing it is fact Test your injecting and not cotton seed oil.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'll explain. I've been on a couple hundred mils of test for a long time without using hcg and haven't experienced any noticeable shrinkage of the balls. And if I understand semi correctly, even 200 mg./wk is enough to shut you down...

...if that is right, does this mean that I'm fortunate enough not to be predisposed to this particular side effect, or does it just mean the dose is too low for it to happen?

This is one of the biggest misconceptions concerning steroid use. And it's strictly a message board thing. Side effects are MOST DEFINITELY does related!

100 mgs a week does not necessarily shut you down. I've been on 100 mgs a week for years and my T is around 900. That can not be the case if I weren't producing some T on my own. And of course, avenacosides help with the free T which is next to impossible to keep high after the age of 40.

 

[Chrisco915]

I still never understand most peoples distain for running HCG during the osage...whether high or low........On HRT I take 1000ui a week and I have experienced no shrinkage and I have been experiencing increased money shot count. Damn.....that alone is worth the price of admission. LOL.

 

[access]

Nelson, he said a 200mgs/week and that to me that would be enough to cause supression and especially so after a long run.

You said your T levels are 900 after 100mgs/week for a long periods (years in fact) but how do you then make the ascertion that this is because your producing your own T? Given Test comes with a ester of 10-12 days dependent upon type for weekly injects why could your T levels not be a gradual increase over the extended time as the T would be accumalating knowing the half life involved to a point where they are at currently with you.

Just interested to see your take on this. Thanks.

 

[jhondo]

I agree with Radar, unless you have bloods done your never going to know for certain either way as your then just supposing but I would surprised if you have not shrunk to some degree as even that amount of test should be shutting you down providing it is fact Test your injecting and not cotton seed oil.

I was just talking about testicular atrophy that is visually noticeable or that you can tell by feel. I'm pretty sure I'm shut down to some degree, like you said. Does that automatically mean the boys will shrink up? Like you and ryno said though, it is very possible that I just don't remember how they used to be. I suppose it makes sense that if I went from 200mg to 500mg, they would do a startling rendition of a pair of raisins!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, he said a 200mgs/week and that to me that would be enough to cause supression and especially so after a long run.

You said your T levels are 900 after 100mgs/week for a long periods (years in fact) but how do you then make the ascertion that this is because your producing your own T? Given Test comes with a ester of 10-12 days dependent upon type for weekly injects why could your T levels not be a gradual increase over the extended time as the T would be accumalating knowing the half life involved to a point where they are at currently with you.

Just interested to see your take on this. Thanks.

I didn't say "suppressed", I said "shut down." For the life of me I can't understand why people keep confusing the two.

100 mgs is not enough to produce 900 ngs a week on its own. My LH is low, but not zero. Of course, I'm suppressed and if I went off my T would probably be around 200. If I were shut down my nuts would be raisons and they're quite normal thank you.

Even when on HRT, I think it's good for the body to at least attempt to produce some T on its own. Same with thyroid. I've been on the same low dose thyroid for years whereas others keep going higher and higher. That means my body may need the extra support but it compensates with some of its own as opposed to needed more and more external help.