Test Is OVERRATED!

[Nelson Montana]

Now this is the most retarded thing I've heard yet.

Feel free to elaborate. Or is that all you've got?

 

[BigCracker]

I only use test because they don't make Brontosauraus Pituitary Extract anymore and King Kong Growth Hormone is too expensive.

 

[Vascular Freak]

will do nelson!!! i have only ran primo a few times and didn't know whether it was the primo giving the results or not...BUT the two cycles with primo in it was the best i have ever ran.... i am running very high amounts of protein and fats and greens with minimal carbs....all from chicken, meat, egg whites, and sashimi....fats from udos oil, nuts, and flax seeds.....

 

[BigCracker]

Primobolan makes me break out on my chest/back more than any other drug. Nasty, un-poppable, painful zits.

 

[bigcountry61]

I only use test because they don't make Brontosauraus Pituitary Extract anymore and King Kong Growth Hormone is too expensive.

bro u always crack me up! excellent response to this thread...

 

[Ross]

Var works on a diffrent principle than Primo. It's not very androgenic but var increases creatine synthesis. This is why var was loved by powerlifters. It didn't make you gain weight but it made you strong as a motherfucker!

Remember though, var was big before creatine was available as a supplement. Now that you can get all the creatine you need, var isn't so special IMO. And the dosages needed to really see the benefit start getting into the toxic range.

Incidentally, it's believed Stallone was an Anavar head. Look at him in Rambo. Not big, but hard as nails.

Personally, I'd rather do 25 mgs of D-bol than 50 mgs of var.

Primo on the other hand is the ultimate nitrogen retention drug. It requires hard training and an insane amount of protein but when it's done right...damn! The old timers loved Primo because it produced clean muscle. Bloat and puffiness was considered a detriment! And of course, Arnie loved his Primo!

Ross; it sounds lie you did things right. But I still believe the "mass" from test is due mostly to the increase in water and blood volume which starts to create blood pressure problems. This leads people to take anti-e's to control bloat but they're working against themselves by negating the added weight. Again, supplements can do this -- creatine, NO2, herbal diuretics and my new supp "VIGOR" which is designed to increase red blood cell count.

Vascular Freak; That sounds sweet. I'm curious. My guess is a slow and steady gain without blowing up but lots of separation in the muscles. You should keep most of your gains too without any SERMS. Let us know.

Anavar and Primobolan produce the exact same LOOK--increased muscle hardness, vascularity, striations, definition, etc. HOWEVER....

Anavar is remarkable for STRENGTH, whereas Primobolan is virtually useless for this purpose.

As for Testosterone, it is simply MORE ANABOLIC and ANDROGENIC than most other steroids, and thus, produces much larger gains in strength and muscle mass. I NEVER use Testosterone without an AI, so I don't retain water. Bottom line, Testosterone builds more strength and mass than Primobolan.

However, steroids like Anavar and Primobolan can do things that testosterone NEVER could; HARDNESS, DEFINITION, THIN SKIN...they have a MUCH different purposes.

BUT COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO TRIED RELENTLESSLY to BULK on traditional "cutting steroids"....it just doesn't work, once you reach a certain level of muscular development.

 

[advanced-stealth]

This is a very good thread.

 

[bikercoz]

I only use test because they don't make Brontosauraus Pituitary Extract anymore and King Kong Growth Hormone is too expensive.

LMAO Bigcracker for President!!!

 

[chazk]

test over 200mg a week gives me unwanted body hair, oily skin ,redish complextion, moon face .puffy look
even with a adex at .5 and if your gonna run adex might as well just run primo or eq instead...

 

[needtogetaas]

Now this is the most retarded thing I've heard yet.

well I dont think you explained much with a post like this ether....