Test E/Tren E Cycle Critique

[The Camel]

Hey all,

I'm new to these boards but I've been reading them for a few years. I'm running my 4th cycle, (2nd with Tren) in the next few weeks need your help.

Stats:
21
6'3"
270lbs
13% BF
Diet in check
Training 6 times a week + cardio (HIIT or stationary bike) 3-5 times a week

I'm looking to cut down to around 6% while maintaining as much muscle mass possible (maybe even adding some mass too)

Cycle:
Week 1-13: Tren E 400 mg/E5D
Week 1-13: Test E 500 mg/E5D

Last time I ran Tren E I went up to 600 mg/E5D, barely any sides (Only lack of sleep) Ran it with 400 mg/E5D Test E. Should I run that cycle again or should I just stick with this one? Anything else I should through in there? I got my PCT ready (Nolva and clomid) and letro on hand in case of gyno.

Thanks In advance

 

[EZ_E]

Welcome to EF, Camel....

Just a quick observation; 21 and already 3 cycles in.......

SLOW DOWN

This is a marathon not a sprint

 

[ozcroboy]

damn ur a big 21 yr old. as above. slow down. cut naturally with diet n cardio. uve got the body mass to cut down naturally

 

[The Camel]

Thanks for the welcome EZ_E

I know I'm a bit young and all but my other cycles were really mild to say the least, First one was just Test E for 6 weeks, second was primo, clen and var for 10, third was Test E and Tren E for 8 weeks. Was planning on making this one of my last cycles since I'm at a size I'm really happy with just need to trim the hedges. I'm sculpting my physique using the Grecian ideal calculations, and pretty much there minus the extra fat and slightly small trap size. But thank you for you concern none the less!

 

[The Camel]

Ozcroboy,

Thanks, yeah I'm a lot bigger than most guys in my gym at uni. So advice is to keep off cycle and do it natural? If natural any tips on cutting down (e.g certain splits at the gym etc)?

Appreciate the input

 

[NegroPops]

drop the test to 250 per week, and run the tren at 600.

your pct needs work

you should not have a problem with estro gyno so letro may not be needed.. but you should have something for prolactin gyno.. something like caber or prami

 

[The Camel]

negropops,

Ran tren E last time at 600 mg worked beautifully. Prob change it to that, why drop the test to such a low dosage though? Thought it should be around 300-400 mg e5d. I'm not susceptible to gyno to begin with but I'll get some caber to keep on hand just incase.

What would you suggest for PCT? I was thinking of doing this:

Clomid:
Week 1 75 ed
Week 2 50 ed
Week 3&4 25 ed

That good or should I change it up a bit?

 

[EZ_E]

Thanks for the welcome EZ_E

I know I'm a bit young and all but my other cycles were really mild to say the least, First one was just Test E for 6 weeks, second was primo, clen and var for 10, third was Test E and Tren E for 8 weeks. Was planning on making this one of my last cycles since I'm at a size I'm really happy with just need to trim the hedges. I'm sculpting my physique using the Grecian ideal calculations, and pretty much there minus the extra fat and slightly small trap size. But thank you for you concern none the less!

We look out for each other on EF bossman....glad to have you with us

 

[The Camel]

We look out for each other on EF bossman....glad to have you with us

Thanks brother, glad to be here.

 

[NegroPops]

I ran Tren Ace at 600 mg per week during my last cycle.. absolutely loved it and didn't experience any sides worth noting. Because of that, I am not as "scared" and concerned of the sides that are associated with higher dosages like a lot of people are. If you handled Tren at 600 once before, I don't see a reason to drop it.
The test is really just there for support. Tren is so strong that is will overshadow anything that the test might accomplish.. tren will own that bish. Also, it has been noted that the sides that are associated with tren are lessened when test isn't ran so high. I have not tried this philosophy yet, but will be running lower test with higher tren in my next cycle. Everything makes since about it.
The caber will help against prolactin sides. Besides the possibility of gyno, there can also be a loss of libido from elevated prolactin. I am sure you have heard of "deca dick" or "fina dick". I would make sure to at least have caber on hand in case any prolcatin related sides arises.
To me, your PCT is a little incomplete. Clomid is a good base obviously, but there are things you can add to it to ensure an efficient recovery.. one where you can restore your bodies natural test as well as keep the majority of your gains. I would add in Forma Stanzol as an AI, as well as some Natty Test boosters. I have had great success with using the Unleashed/Post Cycle combo, which can be picked up at needtobuildmuscle or proteinfactory. Also d-aspartic acid is a good addition to help elevate test production. Also keep in mind that proper on cycle support can make it easier to transfer into PCT. HCG is a must imo to kick start your balls right before starting PCT.
Masteron may also be a good addition to this cycle. You could pin 1.5 ml of mast, 1.5 ml of tren, and .5 ml of test twice per week. For 10 weeks. 13 weeks on tren may be a little too long. I would go like this for your cycle.

1-10 Test E 250 mg/week
1-10 Tren E 600 mg/week
1-10 Mast E 600 mg/week