Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique please.

[Stickboy_82]

Hi guys, first post, been doing a lot of research and sticky reading and was hoping to get a little specific advice.

30 yr old male, 5'11" 155lbs, 7% BF, 57ml/kg/min VO2max, in very good shape and feel like I have a solid diet. Obviously not a big guy at all, and that is not one of my goals. I do a lot of submission wresting and teach some various martial arts/fitness classes and do S&C 2x a week. It ends up being around 11 1hr+ workouts a week and to be honest, I'm fuckin' tired!

My main goal in boosting my Test levels are to repair and recover faster thereby reducing the potential for injury and improve my overall strength and energy. I'd be happy to gain 10lbs of genuine muscle, but wouldn't want to go beyond that really, hence the low dose. I'm posting this to see if Test E is for me...

Ok, here's the cycle that was given to me, what do you think?

Weeks 1-8:
*250mg testosterone per week

Week 8-11:
*250mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)

Week 12:
*200mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)

Week 13:
*.25mg of Arimidex every other day
*100mg of clomid every day

Week 14:
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
*50mg of clomid every day

This is an example of an average day with 2 or 3 training sessions...
Breakfast- 3 eggs, 2 pieces ezekiel bread, 1c milk

> Mid Morning - Green smoothie - 1/2c almond milk, 1/2c orange juice, banana, 1c cottage cheese, 1.5tbl peanut butter, 1/2 bunch spinach, 1/2c oatmeal

> Post Workout - 1 1/2 c Dark Chocolate Almond Milk, 1 scoop whey protein, few slices watermelon

Lunch - 1 chk breast, 1 chk thigh, 1 1/2 C Rice & black & kidney beans, 1/2 broccoli, Handfull raw almonds

> Post Workout - Green Smoothie - 1/2c skim milk, 1 apple, 1 pear, 1/2 bunch Kale, 1/2 alvocado.

Dinner (Try to time 30min before bed) leftovers from lunch or a caesin protein shake or both depending on workload during the day.


All comments welcome, thanks a lot for reading.

 

[Stryker1992]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

Hi guys, first post, been doing a lot of research and sticky reading and was hoping to get a little specific advice.

30 yr old male, 5'11" 155lbs, 7% BF, 57ml/kg/min VO2max, in very good shape and feel like I have a solid diet. Obviously not a big guy at all, and that is not one of my goals. I do a lot of submission wresting and teach some various martial arts/fitness classes and do S&C 2x a week. It ends up being around 11 1hr+ workouts a week and to be honest, I'm fuckin' tired!

My main goal in boosting my Test levels are to repair and recover faster thereby reducing the potential for injury and improve my overall strength and energy. I'd be happy to gain 10lbs of genuine muscle, but wouldn't want to go beyond that really, hence the low dose. I'm posting this to see if Test E is for me...

Ok, here's the cycle that was given to me, what do you think?

Weeks 1-8:
*250mg testosterone per week

Week 8-11:
*250mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)

Week 12:
*200mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)

Week 13:
*.25mg of Arimidex every other day
*100mg of clomid every day

Week 14:
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
*50mg of clomid every day

This is an example of an average day with 2 or 3 training sessions...
Breakfast- 3 eggs, 2 pieces ezekiel bread, 1c milk

> Mid Morning - Green smoothie - 1/2c almond milk, 1/2c orange juice, banana, 1c cottage cheese, 1.5tbl peanut butter, 1/2 bunch spinach, 1/2c oatmeal

> Post Workout - 1 1/2 c Dark Chocolate Almond Milk, 1 scoop whey protein, few slices watermelon

Lunch - 1 chk breast, 1 chk thigh, 1 1/2 C Rice & black & kidney beans, 1/2 broccoli, Handfull raw almonds

> Post Workout - Green Smoothie - 1/2c skim milk, 1 apple, 1 pear, 1/2 bunch Kale, 1/2 alvocado.

Dinner (Try to time 30min before bed) leftovers from lunch or a caesin protein shake or both depending on workload during the day.


All comments welcome, thanks a lot for reading.

I am an MMA guy myself and I think you are probably more interest in recovery long term..at least I know that I am. I train like this all the time and obviously cannot be on AAS all the time. When I go off the recovery issues are still there.

Here is waht I started using:

Powerchews preworkout and glutamine. They have made a solid cahnge to my energy levels when fatigued from the day prior as well as helping me recover after.

Bridge from NTBM

Phytoserms347 an natural test booster.

These products have made a signifcant impact helping me with recovery and I can run them without worrying about sides.

If you have joint issues as I do Forged Joint Repair

They can all be ordered from needtobuildmuscle.com and I can give you a discount code if you pm me.

Now granted I am thinking of you as I do myself with year round training. I do cycle a couple of times a year but that is not for recovery reasons.

Let mw know what you think and I can repsond differently but i am trying to see the "big picture"

 

[Liquid 2009]

I am an MMA guy myself and I think you are probably more interest in recovery long term..at least I know that I am. I train like this all the time and obviously cannot be on AAS all the time. When I go off the recovery issues are still there.

Here is waht I started using:

Powerchews preworkout and glutamine. They have made a solid cahnge to my energy levels when fatigued from the day prior as well as helping me recover after.

Bridge from NTBM

Phytoserms347 an natural test booster.

These products have made a signifcant impact helping me with recovery and I can run them without worrying about sides.

If you have joint issues as I do Forged Joint Repair

They can all be ordered from needtobuildmuscle.com and I can give you a discount code if you pm me.

Now granted I am thinking of you as I do myself with year round training. I do cycle a couple of times a year but that is not for recovery reasons.

Let mw know what you think and I can repsond differently but i am trying to see the "big picture"

Great advice!

 

[Stickboy_82]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

Thank you Stryker, I have some Googling to do now.

 

[Stryker1992]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

Thank you Stryker, I have some Googling to do now.

okay bro..I am here to help...

 

[tjbr]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

That is considered a pretty low, almost minimal dose of testosterone. Your diet looks great. However unless you are really trying to put on muscle mass and increase your caloric intake (you seem really lean) then maybe a low dose of steroids is not for you. There's plenty of supplements like Stryker mentioned that you can get your hands on. Most people here have personally tried them, so consider taking a look over your options besides a low dose of test.

 

[Stickboy_82]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

Yes, I'm very lean. My abs are more visible now than they were when I got the 7% reading, so I may actually be a little lower. I would actually like to gain 10lbs....but weight gain is hard with the amount of cardio I'm doing....or at least lean weight gain seems difficult for me. Hard to imagine eating more food, though I suppose upping portion sizes wouldn't be too hard. What dose would you guys recommend if 250 per wk is a little low for any muscle gain?

Also, I should've mentioned that I currently take creatine and amino fuel pre-workout and haven't seen much effect. Still researching Stryker's suggested supplements. Tons of reading to do.....but to be honest guys, I'd kind of like to try a cycle of Test E to experience it for myself as an athlete who's never tried it to see what all the "fuss" is about.

 

[ishaq]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

a dont think 250 is a little low for muscle gain at all, if you diet right and train hard it should help you recover faster and feel better, maybe look into some HGH low does am sure would work wonders. keep up your intake of protien,amino acids and carbs vitamins and minerals and giving a low dose test cycle maybe worth a try

 

[DBBT]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

a dont think 250 is a little low for muscle gain at all, if you diet right and train hard it should help you recover faster and feel better, maybe look into some HGH low does am sure would work wonders. keep up your intake of protien,amino acids and carbs vitamins and minerals and giving a low dose test cycle maybe worth a try

Absoulutely nothing wrong with starting at 200-250 weekly. Drop the arimidex tho. Have it on hand but trust me you will not NEED to take it for a while. If you feel an itchy nip, take a quarter mg like you planned. Your test dose is so low and you are so active it(adex) will most likely not even need to be added to your cycle. Bump up your test dose if you plateau in your workouts for a couple weeks and/or notice you are not recovering

 

[Nelson Montana]

Re: Test E for repair and recovery...not necessarily size. Discuss and critique pleas

No need for dex with that dosage and no need for clomid. Look into natty PCT --UNLEASHED/POST CYCLE, Bridge.