Test. 400 Owch!

[FLmuscles]

I have a question in regards to Test-400. I believe this is a new product. In any case, it is a blend of different test. esthers, similar to Sustanon. Each cc contains 25 mg test. propianate, 188 mg test. enathate, and 187 mg test. cyprionate.

On past cycles, I have used Test. Enathate only (stacked with other things, like d-bol.) On this cycle, I am taking 2 Anadrol-50's per day, along with 600 mg Deca/week. I had planned on also using 1,600 mg test-400 (4 cc)/week. BUT, I have had a probem injecting this stuff. Both my partner and I have had the same problem--very sore injection sites and some swelling at the site, upper outer glutes. I've had similar probelms in the past, but not to this extreme.

I am sure these are not abscesses, as there is no sign of infection, no redness, no fever, etc., and we use sterile injection techniques. But, GEEZ, is my butt sore!!! I can hardly roll over in bed at night without waking up. The first shot (right glute) was 2 cc, 3 days ago. Since this got so sore and somewhat swollen, I tried just one cc in the left glute today, and it is getting sore too.

ANY IDEAS WHAT'S CAUSING THIS? I thought it might be a reaction to the Test-400, but it's odd that both my partner and I would have it. And I'm confident in the quality of the product, as I bought it from a pharmacy in Mexico that I've dealt with for years; the packaging is all correct and professional, plus there are Denkall holographic security id's on the boxes and on the vials.

Any suggestions???
Thanks in advance.

 

[CB38AC]

thats what t400 is like high BA to get 400mg in a ml....Personally I would rather do test cyp at 200mg/ml but since you got it try mixing it with the deca...good luck its gonna hurt

 

[3Vandoo]

try to mix it with your deca.
will "civilized" the injections.

 

[liquidmuscle]

is this your 1st time using T400? get use to the swell and pain bro, the only way i know how to counter act it is mix w/eq or deca

 

[FLmuscles]

Thanks for the quick replies! Yes, this is the first time I've tried to use Test-400. Previously I was using Test. Enathate, I believe it was at 200mg/ml. If I had know this stuff would hurt so much, I would have just gone with the Test. Eth. like previously.

I will definitely try mixing it with the Deca to see if that helps. I'll report back on that.

Thanks again!

 

[FLmuscles]

I have tried mixing the Deca with the Test-400 on my last injection, and it helped alot. There is much less soreness and no swelling this time.

I'm taking 4 cc's of Test.-400 per week and 3 cc's Deca/ week. On this week, I had already used 3 cc's of the T-400 and 1 1/2 cc's of the Deca, as I was trying to figure out if a lower injection volume of the T-400 might reduce the problems, and so I had done one injection at 2cc's, then a second one at 1cc. So this time I mixed 1 cc Test-400 with 1 1/2 cc's Deca, and that really helped out. For the remainder of the cycle, I will mix the correct ratio of Deca and Test. (3/4 cc Deca and 1 cc T-440,) doing two shots biweekly (four injections/week, done on two different days.)

I've been mixing the Deca and T-400 in the syringe by first drawing in the correct amount of T-400, which seems thicker, and then the correct amount of Deca. Then I turn the syringe upside down and back upright a few times to try to mix the solution. This is the only way I could think of combining them in a sterile manner. Since I can't get the full amount in a 3cc syringe, I've split it into two injections done biweekly, as I mentioned above.

Thanks for the suggestion. I hope this helps others using T-400 out too.

 

[The Shadow]

Guys - try boiling with a small gauge needle in septum to bleed off pressure. Bring to a boil for 10 min. Repeat this three times and it will really help with the overdose of BA present.

The concentration from the T-400 will cause soreness due to it being thick, but the reduction in BA will really be noticable.

 

[FLmuscles]

Cornholio,
I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying to place the vial in a pan of boiling water with a needle stuck into the septum--how small a gauge--a 29g Insulin needle?? And I don't know what "BA" refers to. Wouldn't boiling the T-400 cause damage to the testosterone?

Thanks

 

[The Shadow]

Cornholio,
I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying to place the vial in a pan of boiling water with a needle stuck into the septum--how small a gauge--a 29g Insulin needle?? And I don't know what "BA" refers to. Wouldn't boiling the T-400 cause damage to the testosterone?

Thanks

My w/o partner uses a 25 ga.

Yes, that is what I mean and no, a slow boil will not hurt the test molecule.

The BA refers to the BEnzyl Alcohol that is present to increase the solubility of test in oil.

 

[muscleup]

cornholio, have you had good results from t400 ????