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machine23 How do you know I'm not looking at my diet? How do you know those adjustments haven't been made a long time ago? Because I've been there and done that and this is where I'm at now. So, once again, the next rung on the ladder for me is steroids bro. It's strange to come on a site about steroids, looking for advice and everyone wants to tell me how steroids are not needed. If you guys are so anti-steroids then why are you on a site discussing steroids???
machine23
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Because this is more of a bodybuilding site. Not a mma site. Yes we have a section on it. So you moving up on weight and strength can only be accomplished thru steroids!!! So what happens when you finish your cycle? You'll be back to square one! Stay with your cycle than. Pct add some post cycle and some unleashed. You can add some forma as well... Have you bothered looking at old threads...
machine 23 Yeah I look at old threads. That's how i came up with the idea of this cycle in the first place. I simply wanted opinions and suggestions on this exact cycle. What to change, add, dosages, PCT, etc. And by your reasoning isn't everyone back to square one after a cycle?? I mean the fact is you shouldn't mess with steroids until you've done everything else right first. Then you get on steroids continue to do everything right, you come off and all you can do is continue to do everything right. Except now you're doing everything right but you're no longer on steroids. The same as you were before the steroids. So you're back to square one!!!
studlife22
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Jfish its your overall arrogance in assuming your training is on point and you dont need any advice that is frustrating. Obviously your not in the UFC or a collegiate athlete so what youve been doing hasn't been cutting it. Zyg asked some valid questions and you got defensive. Go ahead and waste your money on your cycle which IMO is not gonna give you the results your looking for and come back to EF with a new attitude and somebody will help you out.
And here is where things get derailed. What we are telling you, at your 6' height and scrawny 170lbs is that you DO NOT need steroids to add strength with a little mass. Your clearly NOT doing everything right or you WOULD be larger and stronger naturally. Thats what we are telling you and you are ignoring because you dont want to hear that your training is NOT ideal FOR THE GOALS you stated. If it was you WOULD already be larger and stronger.
There is absolutely NO reason at all that you cant hit a lean 200lbs NATURALLY. The only thing standing in your way is your own ignorance and pride.
You have a very narrow goal and everyone responds differently to AAS. As most of us here know the sides associated with AAS vary greatly from dose to dose and person to person which means no one can really accurately give you cycle advice. Even another fighters recommendation could be horribly wrong for you.
I told you what PCT to us. Personally I dont like oral only cycles because your natural test is shut down and I feel that it should at least be replaced by enough exo test to replace normals levels your not producing. Orals jack your lipid profiles and are generally rough on the liver. If you want strength with no mass try some winny but you may find the painful joints and perhaps pumps are too much to handle, wont know until YOU try. Anavar may be good as well but since one of its uses was for treating anemia you may find as a healthy person the increase in RBC has a detrimental impact on endurance, once again you would have to see how it affects you at various doses, ideally accompanied by blood work.
All of these unknowns and for sure testicular shutdown and for what? Some strength and a couple pounds, both of which should be easy to come by at your weight.
Im bowing out of this thread now, its clear you wont listen to reason but just remember what I said, with your narrow set of goals/requirements your as likely to get an inaccurate recommendation regarding a cycle as you are a good one, even from another fighter due to the differences in the way people tolerate AAS.
studlife22 I didn't come here for training advice. There is alot better places for me to go for that. And I've done that plenty. And you call me arrogant? Come on man, your name on here is studlife lol. I bet you're a real stud. LOL. And how would you know if what I'm doing is cutting it. Nobody starts out in the UFC.It's a long road to get anywhere near that level. And I was a division 1 college athlete pal. MAC football. And because someone is 170 you guys assume they can get to 200 naturally? It's called genetics. You might as well justy say a guy 270 can get to 300 naturally then. Nobody can use steroids. And all 170lb guys aren't scrawny, like I said GSP, Bernard Hopkins. Bad Motherfuckers and theirs plenty of guys around 170-180 with way better physiques than you powerlifters with your sloppy 275lbs throwin up as much weight as you can pile on, yet you're too slow and striif to whip my grandmother. Nobody wants to be like that. Well, besides a few of you guys. Thanks for your advice, but unless it involves steroids, keep it to yourself. I didn't come on a steroid site to get training and nutrition advice from bodybuilders. Bodybuilding just isn't my thing. You guys grow muscle for what? It's not the kind you can use anywhere but the weight room.
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