tbol/anavar

[jfish2134]

I'm 6' 170lbs. 25yrs old. I am looking to add strength and a little size with no bloat. I'm an amateur boxer and MMA fighter so I can't add much weight and I definetly don't want to get slower from putting on alot of bulk. I'm wanting to get to 180-185 and gain as much strength as possible. I was considering the following cycle:

Wks 1-4 = Turanabol 50mg/daily
Wks 5-8 = Anavar 50mg/daily
PCT???

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.

 

[machine23]

Why not just eat a bit more. Look at needto product line and see what he has that can probably help you. That's just me tho. You ever done any aas

 

[Zyglamail]

at 6' 170lbs at 25 years old your pretty scrawny (no offense intended) and adding 10-15lbs naturally should be easy enough if your eating and training for mass gain. Technically speaking if your goal is strength you shouldnt be concerned with weight at all. A lot of strength comes from your CNS so you should be following a strength training program and eat to get strong, IF weight comes with it so be it but dont confuse mass with strength they are not always one in the same. I know of some 165lb guys who can deadlift >630.

 

[machine23]

at 6' 170lbs at 25 years old your pretty scrawny (no offense intended) and adding 10-15lbs naturally should be easy enough if your eating and training for mass gain. Technically speaking if your goal is strength you shouldnt be concerned with weight at all. A lot of strength comes from your CNS so you should be following a strength training program and eat to get strong, IF weight comes with it so be it but dont confuse mass with strength they are not always one in the same. I know of some 165lb guys who can deadlift >630.

You pretty much said what I was thinking I just didn't want to come off like I was punking him out..that's why I just said why not eat more.

 

[jfish2134]

I'm asking for advice about using steroids. If I was only concerned with gaining size and strength I'd lay around and stuff my face and lift a few times a week. But as I said I fight which involves alot of training making it hard to gain weight and strength by just eating. Scrawny?? just because someone is 170lbs doesn't make em scrawny. Would you consider GSP or Bernard Hopkins scrawny? Not saying I'm like them guys, but you get the point. Anyways back to what I was asking. Can anyone help me with advice for using steroids to reach my goals listed above? Thank You.

 

[Zyglamail]

I'm asking for advice about using steroids. If I was only concerned with gaining size and strength I'd lay around and stuff my face and lift a few times a week. But as I said I fight which involves alot of training making it hard to gain weight and strength by just eating. Scrawny?? just because someone is 170lbs doesn't make em scrawny. Would you consider GSP or Bernard Hopkins scrawny? Not saying I'm like them guys, but you get the point. Anyways back to what I was asking. Can anyone help me with advice for using steroids to reach my goals listed above? Thank You.

Sure. id call then scrawny too from a BB or PL standpoint, but they are still amazing athletes and fighters.

We know your asking about steroids, and what we are telling you is you dont need them for your goals. AAS will likely hamper your endurance and possible cause muscle pumps that interfere with existing training. We are not telling you to lay around and eat bon bons either but you cant add mass without consuming the building blocks to support it, pretty simple concept.

Strength training is what you need, not steroids. Can you even deadlift 2x your bodyweight?

 

[machine23]

Sure. id call then scrawny too from a BB or PL standpoint, but they are still amazing athletes and fighters.

We know your asking about steroids, and what we are telling you is you dont need them for your goals. AAS will likely hamper your endurance and possible cause muscle pumps that interfere with existing training. We are not telling you to lay around and eat bon bons either but you cant add mass without consuming the building blocks to support it, pretty simple concept.

Strength training is what you need, not steroids. Can you even deadlift 2x your bodyweight?

Hey I'm with you.. But he wants some advice. So can someone help him... Just remember tho, Tbol may do nothing for you and var may help you out a bit but everything is just temporary if you don't eat right and eat enough above your maintenance level.

 

[Zyglamail]

Hey I'm with you.. But he wants some advice. So can someone help him... Just remember tho, Tbol may do nothing for you and var may help you out a bit but everything is just temporary if you don't eat right and eat enough above your maintenance level.

I did give him advice, he doesnt need AAS. And if he is a fighter its not worth the risk anyways. Why shut down HPTA when goals are easily attainable?

For christs sake the guy is 170lb at 6 foot, there is no reason he cant add a lot of strength naturally AND stay lean AND maintain endurance if he would just alter his training and diet slightly.

Screw it, if the guy just wants to jump on AAS then go for it, he doesnt want advice he wants someone to agree with him.

 

[machine23]

Cycle is ok... Just look in the pct section. Many posts of ppl doing these type of cycles.. Good luck dude.

 

[Lancer55]

Listen to Zyg he knows his shit, im 5lbs heavier than you and 4 inches shorter than ya man, all you got to do is eat more, check out Needtos products like machine said. Good luck.