Im happy discussing thanksSTFU
Im happy discussing thanksSTFU
I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.The rare occasions it did happen i learnt my lesson, call it what you want, but it was the wrong thing to do, i never wanted to make beef but clearly its taken much harsher than i anticipated, so there thats my honest truth
Tell that to Ash lol. If you’re taking his side you’re also a shit cunt“stop blaming others for your actions”
I can’t see it would make a difference to you if you knew the why, you’re just fuelling the fire.I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.
Do you see me asking what happened, or am I asking why he did it?There appears to a whole lot you don’t know, hence why you’re asking so many questions, yet you’re still providing a strong opinion. What’s different?
I don’t care what you can or can’t see. You’re not relevant.I can’t see it would make a difference to you if you knew the why, you’re just fuelling the fire.
my views are impartial, im on nobody’s side here but im seeing more idiocracys in those against ash, you’ve all done a fine job ousting him and he is apologising, what else do you want.Tell that to Ash lol. If you’re taking his side you’re also a shit cunt
Man what do you want me to say? "I want money" ok thats a goid enough answer, is it not? I just want this to be done with, gregs got his money, everyone else can have their opinions of me, im focussing on my bodybuilding and my career, it doesnt need to go further than after we wrap this up does itI asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.
Neither are you to me, but I’m listening to and regarding your opinion.I don’t care what you can or can’t see. You’re not relevant.
Literally all I’m seeking is the truth. If “I wanted money” is the answer then it’s the answer.Man what do you want me to say? "I want money" ok thats a goid enough answer, is it not? I just want this to be done with, gregs got his money, everyone else can have their opinions of me, im focussing on my bodybuilding and my career, it doesnt need to go further than after we wrap this up does it
I don’t care. Your input isn’t relevant.Neither are you to me, but I’m listening to and regarding your opinion.
Well i want my life to go back to being peaceful so if thats all id like to do just that, it doesnt need to go furtherLiterally all I’m seeking is the truth. If “I wanted money” is the answer then it’s the answer.
Anyway I’m off to the gym, I’d ask more questions but I’m short on time rn.
Stop responding thenI don’t care. Your input isn’t relevant.
You pissed off a lot of people and have routinely avoided accountability. As far as I can tell, Greg only got his money back because a third party pressured you, or perhaps it was an extremely uncanny coincidenceWell i want my life to go back to being peaceful so if thats all id like to do just that, it doesnt need to go further
alright Judge Judy, tell us moreYou pissed off a lot of people and have routinely avoided accountability. As far as I can tell, Greg only got his money back because a third party pressured you, or perhaps it was an extremely uncanny coincidencebig doubts.
You fucked with vendors and clients, I’m not sure peace comes quickly when you develop that reputation.
Peace might come with transparency and accountability though.![]()
You’re clearly on his side bromy views are impartial, im on nobody’s side here but im seeing more idiocracys in those against ash, you’ve all done a fine job ousting him and he is apologising, what else do you want.
I wouldn’t waste any more time with this blow in, he’s not relevant.You’re clearly on his side broif you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional
What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth
I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall
Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head
This is unreal coming from you mate, didnt you have an ACTUAL drug addiction once? Dont go throwing shade at me for something youve admitted to, its called projectionYou’re clearly on his side broif you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional
What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth
I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall
Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head
Nah im actually financially secure thanks bud, but thanks for your kind words, enjoy your nightHey guys.
I'm new here. You all sound like a lovely bunch of blokes. That swcc oak seems like his e2 is a little out of control, the coach needs coaching lol.
I figured and thought I would jump on here. I hope no vendor sells to you @Swcc the fact you get free gear and sell to others. Then write on bottles like a 5 year old child. Even my nephew writes in better handwriting. Not to mention the fact if you actually wrote it on the piece of paper first before sticking it on the bottle it would look more convincing.
Sounds like your needing a bit of coin. Might have to learn how to make steroids now. As no vendor will sell to you Ash.
Have a lovely day
Undercutter
Love you big man. You will do well with a small niche of men buying your underwear. Much more lucrative.Nah im actually financially secure thanks bud, but thanks for your kind words, enjoy your night
Thanks hun, let me know when you need another pairLove you big man. You will do well with a small niche of men buying your underwear. Much more lucrative.
I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lolThis is unreal coming from you mate, didnt you have an ACTUAL drug addiction once? Dont go throwing shade at me for something youve admitted to, its called projection
And wanting to see someone suffer is a trait of a psycopath, so id get evaluated asap
I suggest you focus on your own life and stop worrying about mine, because im doing just fine when im not being pestered by the likes of people
Like you
Silence has been reached.I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol
You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you
I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely
See the funny thing is, since i ACTUALLY am involved in the bodybuilding industry and am known and liked by other real coaches and bodybuilders ive never had more support in my life than i do now, ive been reached out to daily by athletes and coaches helping me get through this shitty time of being slandered, so no actually im very far from lonelyI definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol
You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you
I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely
No im just busy responding to clients, but nice commentary buddySilence has been reached.
Finally.Silence has been reached.
That is actually funnySee the funny thing is, since i ACTUALLY am involved in the bodybuilding industry and am known and liked by other real coaches and bodybuilders ive never had more support in my life than i do now, ive been reached out to daily by athletes and coaches helping me get through this shitty time of being slandered, so no actually im very far from lonely
Oh yeah the rec drugs that i then forwarded on? Yeah thanks dude helped some people i know alot thankyou
And again, wishing for someone to suffer says alot about your character, i always thought you were a good guy, but true colours eventually show, and now to me your just another nobody doing nothing positive in bidybuilding, just wanting to see others as miserable as you are
Id say nice knowing ya but thatd be a lie, night LV
I agree lol crack up haha goshThat is actually funnygood night bro
In all seriousness I genuinely hope you get the help you need and you’re able to look back on this part of your life and think ‘what the fuck was I doing’
Some random who just jumps onboard the bandwagon without knowing a single thing! Who wouldve guessed!swcc avoiding accountability AGAIN?? who wouldve guessed
I hope you can look back one day and go "fuck i was a bandwaggoner and didnt have two brain cells to rub together"That is actually funnygood night bro
In all seriousness I genuinely hope you get the help you need and you’re able to look back on this part of your life and think ‘what the fuck was I doing’
Its just a witchhunt, what ive been dealing with for the past month, in australia we call this "tall poppy syndrome" noone in here has done anything in bodybuilding let alone stick to a meal plan for more than a few days, im banged my head against the wall here enough and they just need to stopDevils advocate here. If SWCC is half as bad as others make out then it 100% needs sorting but the OP has hair on his balls (just) and needs to take SOME responsibility.
Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself
Why is a 20 year old on TRT 'for a few years'. Now I agree with 1 members reply re getting good advice from a reliable coach. Here's some for free - stop. Just stop. You're 20, describe yourself as 'fresh' (I waited on 'innocent and virginal' too) yet wanted advice on running PEDS. If you thought you needed to eat more then DO SO. What the heck is staying on the same intake gonna do? If I pay for something (info from an 'expert') then you can be damn sure I'll ask questions.
People mention 'multiple forum banning'... mention those forums. Less 2nd hand 'what I heard and more names, proof etc
notice how in the screenshot that’s the bloods sent is the VERY first ever images sent to SWCC? So clearly was before you signed upOk so yes those bloods are real, I did them myself before even signing on and sent them to you after asking if you wanted to see. The turinabol question is also real, as I was asking due to being able to get it for free. I had no idea and was able to get something for free that would usually cost me a bit, who wouldn't ask?
I'm not spreading any abuse, any slander or any lies. I haven't been going around saying stupid shit and I haven't threatened anything or any one at any time.
I just wanted to state facts and explain my side of the story and will continue to do so, as well as being 100% truthful about things I have said or that are claimed about me, such as above.
notice how in the screenshot that’s the bloods sent is the VERY first ever images sent to SWCC? So clearly was before you signed up
We did more than 1 set of bloods and you know it, also remember you constantly asking me if you could use more compounds or try this or try that? Im not soreading hate either but you guys are unreal the way you are bending the truthFurther to that, I also have receipts of the same conversations and such, which I don't feel a need to post to prove any points as I am not lying and have nothing to hide.
I wish i had our receipts so i could show people how much of a liar you are toonotice how in the screenshot that’s the bloods sent is the VERY first ever images sent to SWCC? So clearly was before you signed up![]()
Admit that i never pushed any drugs onto you, and infact you initiated and asked to use most of the extra stuff you did, remember you asking me if you could try xyz compound? Sure i shouldve pushed back and said no but i didnt force you to do anythingFurther to that, I also have receipts of the same conversations and such, which I don't feel a need to post to prove any points as I am not lying and have nothing to hide.
Fuck me you’re an absolute bot.Admit that i never pushed any drugs onto you, and infact you initiated and asked to use most of the extra stuff you did, remember you asking me if you could try xyz compound? Sure i shouldve pushed back and said no but i didnt force you to do anything
I dont take offence from people who are doing worse than me in life, so water off a ducks back buddyFuck me you’re an absolute bot. View attachment 182611
This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time
Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"
I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys
Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions
Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar
What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here
Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot
I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context
Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.
So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation
Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem
I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me
So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems
Mate you look like a Fuckn bunyip. You have actively admitted to using people with disabilities so you can seal from Cole’s or wollies. Doing better than meI dont take offence from people who are doing worse than me in life, so water off a ducks back buddy
Thanks! Ill remember that when im doing what i love everyday and you continue being a nobodyMate you look like a Fuckn bunyip. You have actively admitted to using people with disabilities so you can seal from Cole’s or wollies. Doing better than memate your mid 30 and look like a turd covered in burnt hair
What taking advantage of people with disabilities. You would have to be one of the most diabolical humans to think that’s ok. Quick chuck your sweat band back on to cover up those wispy pubes that look glued to your skull. Taking advantage of vulnerable people is about as pathetic as it comes. Until you take responsibility and accountability for your actions you will continue to be a plebThanks! Ill remember that when im doing what i love everyday and you continue being a nobody![]()
Thanks sweet heart xoxoxWhat taking advantage of people with disabilities. You would have to be one of the most diabolical humans to think that’s ok. Quick chuck your sweat band back on to cover up those wispy pubes that look glued to your skull. Taking advantage of vulnerable people is about as pathetic as it comes. Until you take responsibility and accountability for your actions you will continue to be a pleb
Keep digging that grave deeper you Muppet, the fact everyone universally hates your guts says everything, the only cunt whos somewhat defended you also turned on you, can you just kys and save us the troubleI hope you can look back one day and go "fuck i was a bandwaggoner and didnt have two brain cells to rub together"
Your welcome you flogThanks sweet heart xoxox
Nah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye sooky la laKeep digging that grave deeper you Muppet, the fact everyone universally hates your guts says everything, the only cunt whos somewhat defended you also turned on you, can you just kys and save us the trouble
Im gonna see you at your next show mate, you better keep this energy, because in dms with my melkor account you were an apologetic little bitchNah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye sooky la la
Nah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye
Mate he’s not sooking. Hes giving out the truth and has given you opportunity to make good and you are being a fuckwit. You would have to be the most unintelligent human iv come across. You are a Fuckn con artistNah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye sooky la la
Na you’re just a Fuckn idiotJust when it seemed like there was some sense, old mate idreamofhenrysballs waltzes back in.
I suggest keeping the threats to a minimum, if you truly want to pay a visit, or be at his show, let me know and I’m happy to ensure you’re dealt with appropriately.
With the authorities of course, you see because I’m not a spineless meathead junkie making threats online.
Spineless?Just when it seemed like there was some sense, old mate idreamofhenrysballs waltzes back in.
I suggest keeping the threats to a minimum, if you truly want to pay a visit, or be at his show, let me know and I’m happy to ensure you’re dealt with appropriately.
With the authorities of course, you see because I’m not a spineless meathead junkie making threats online.
Oh, I don’t really do I but I bet he loves the embrace of your heavy grip huhSpineless?
Junky?
If only you actually knew.
Go call the cops faggotOh, I don’t really do I but I bet he loves the embrace of your heavy grip huh
What the fuck is wrong with youOh, I don’t really do I but I bet he loves the embrace of your heavy grip huh
Why does that make someone a faggot? Is that not a reasonable thing to do? Do you realise how stupid you sound? This is the problem when a bunch of bravado males are tossing each other off in an echo chamberGo call the cops faggot![]()
I’m a whiny faggot
Is that better or worse than the guy you are defending, who admitted in a group chat to using an NDIS clients wheelchair to shoplift?Why does that make someone a faggot? Is that not a reasonable thing to do? Do you realise how stupid you sound? This is the problem when a bunch of bravado males are tossing each other off in an echo chamber
You sound even worse now, read your own comment back.Is that better or worse than the guy you are defending, who admitted in a group chat to using an NDIS clients wheelchair to shoplift?
He is despised for many, many reasons you fucking cocksucker, it makes sense that a coward who’s go to is to call the cops would align themselves with someone who could do that to a vulnerable person.
How stupid I sound? Fucking lol
No worries SW.You sound even worse now, read your own comment back.
It’s tiring debating with people that have an IQ and bodyfat that match. I’ll take my leave.
Your a good troll, very entertainingWhy does that make someone a faggot? Is that not a reasonable thing to do? Do you realise how stupid you sound? This is the problem when a bunch of bravado males are tossing each other off in an echo chamber
Thank you wolfYour a good troll, very entertaining
Debate this bro.You sound even worse now, read your own comment back.
It’s tiring debating with people that have an IQ and bodyfat that match. I’ll take my leave.
Everyone in the chat laughed at it and supported it, you probably did too. But now you’re butt hurt you’re using it as ammo. Once again evidence you’re all sucking each others cocks in an echo chamber. Thanks for providing evidence of exactly the point I’m making. You’re a champ!Debate this bro.
Given my low IQ it should be easy, justify an NDIS support worker using a client in a wheelchair to shoplift.
I especially like the irony of you questioning people’s IQ while this idiot can’t even spell disability correctly.
Here, I’ll get you started.
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People like this should be in jail…….be very interested to hear your take on this.
Nah bro.Everyone in the chat laughed at it and supported it, you probably did too. But now you’re butt hurt you’re using it as ammo. Once again evidence you’re all sucking each others cocks in an echo chamber. Thanks for providing evidence of exactly the point I’m making. You’re a champ!
You hit the nail on the head, I think it's more to do with higher ups, they don't really give a fuck . Mods and community members can only raise so much. I don't know who the higher ups are but if they cared the same standards would be upheld. Just the way I see it.What a morning read.
My 2 cents is: Vendors for good reasons get suspended for failing their duties on Evo and EF at the drop of a hat - Good in my opinion helps keep the standards very high.
It seems that us as the community members get quite a more relaxed approach to suspensions or banning etc.
Like people really have to be pieces of shit for a longer period of time almost too long - which is more understandable compared to vendors as well as this is community led and we don't have access to Vendor standards as much as the Mods do.
I don't know the story or who or how bad this coach actually is as most of the evidence would be on someone's phone with very little posted.
But if we have MODS raising issues.
Multiple community members all raising concerns about someone.
Multiple other communities banning someone.
If SWCC is actually as bad as everyone is claiming: How is he still here and why haven't thing's been done?
and that's less aimed at him and more at future Malaka's
It’s just a matter of time mate. He’s banned everywhere else.What a morning read.
My 2 cents is: Vendors for good reasons get suspended for failing their duties on Evo and EF at the drop of a hat - Good in my opinion helps keep the standards very high.
It seems that us as the community members get quite a more relaxed approach to suspensions or banning etc.
Like people really have to be pieces of shit for a longer period of time almost too long - which is more understandable compared to vendors as well as this is community led and we don't have access to Vendor standards as much as the Mods do.
I don't know the story or who or how bad this coach actually is as most of the evidence would be on someone's phone with very little posted.
But if we have MODS raising issues.
Multiple community members all raising concerns about someone.
Multiple other communities banning someone.
If SWCC is actually as bad as everyone is claiming: How is he still here and why haven't thing's been done?
and that's less aimed at him and more at future Malaka's
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