Sust & Deca ( A lousy stack ) ?

[gunner44]

Hmmmmmm.... Ok, I guess I'll give it some more time and see what happens. But I always start to kick in with Test Ethan & Dbol by week 3, so this stack doesn't seem to be following my normal reaction times.

Regarding work outs, diet, and sleep... I'm not doing anything differently than I have during other cycles. I'm flooding my body with protein both from natural food and supplement sources and I've up'ed my workouts to 6 days a week as opposed to the regular 4 that I do off cycle, which has always worked well for me. So the differentiating factor here is the AS, not the regimine.

I can't definitively say that the Organon deca couldn't be counterfit, but the Organon sust is in sealed glass ampules. And the sust alone should have given me a noticeable boost, even if I wasn't doing the deca at all.

I think you should give it time. COmparing the Deca/Sust cycle to ANYTHING with d-bol is not a fair comparison AT ALL.

D-bol begins to have an impact in several days, so it just isnt fair to compare these two cycles.

Hope your experiment goes well.

 

[majutsu]

gimp is right too, deca takes a loooooooong time for me. But its all worth it in the end. Great lean mass, fat loss, and a nice hard look. It's much better in 12wk+ cycles for this reason, and takes months to recover, so that can all be difficult. But I still love Deca, but again for short cycles I would try NPP for sure, though I can't vouch for this approach personally. Maybe someone else has NPP experience to relate. . .

 

[gimp]

I am really interested in NPP as well.....anybody?

 

[houseofpain]

Update...

I'm into week 7 of my cycle on 400mg Deca / 500mg Sust per week delivered in twice weekly injections.

Gains have been minimal at best. (I'm only 6lbs up on weight and strenght gains have only been an increase of 20lbs over normal maximums). What I'm seeing is the same effect I would expect to see if I was on a "Test Only" cycled at 500mg per week.

I don't know if the gear is bogus or if the long acting nature of Deca is the culprit. But this is my first and last cycle with Deca. The minimal gains I'm seeing just aren't worth wasting hard earned cash on Deca.

I'm going back to stacking against a dbol base on my next cycle...

 

[JKurz1]

damn....and I was going to start that exact stack this week.....any one else have any thoughts? What kind of gear are you using bro? Diet? Training..............

 

[CPA22]

Yellow cap decas are very commonly faked...thats gotta be part of the reason at least

 

[Wrongun]

very strange and may be time to look at the authenticity of your Decca

SUS / Decca combinations make me grow and would even go as far to say best bulking combination there is!

Wrongun!

 

[Outtlaw]

Yeah, this doesnt sound too good. I'd definitely be questioning your gear at this point.

 

[flex2win]

I have done 2 cycles with dbol/sus/deca
1st cycle: 30mg dbol/500mg/200mg deca= 37lbs
2nd cycle: 30mg dbol/500mg Omna/ 300mg deca= 23lbs

This is one of the all time best bulking cycles you can use...

 

[majutsu]

yeah *sigh* check the dec