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Sust & Deca ( A lousy stack ) ?

genarr3 said:
I would grow just looking at those two. Something is not right here. What brands are they?
Are you otherwise having good days in the gym? What I'm getting at is if not for the steroids, would you consider yourself in a peak or valley strength wise?

Agree, I got the most gains with sust-deca-dbols. Week 5-6-7 were just fantastic in terms of mass gains.
 
manny78 said:


Agree, I got the most gains with sust-deca-dbols. Week 5-6-7 were just fantastic in terms of mass gains.

i was just about to say dbol would be a great addition to that stack.

just add a bra for the tits and your good to go. lol j/k
 
starting this stack tomorrow...no dbol, as I hate the bloat....I'll let you know what you are doing wrong...lol...I hope
 
Why did you start out at such low dosages? You would have had much better results starting off at Sust eod and Deca 400-600mg per for 4-6wks. After that switch to Test prop at 100-150mg ed and Winny 50mg ed for 4-6wks.
 
500mg, a low dose??????? nah............what are you saying 250mg eod???? Deca at 400mg - 600mg is unnecessary and will shut you down harder than you know what......
 
IMHO a Decca / Sus combination with a kickstart of Dbol is one of the best cycles to put on mass there is.

I would review your:

Diet (enough calories?)
Training (not over training?)
AAS authenticity

Wrongun!
 
Hmmmmmm.... Ok, I guess I'll give it some more time and see what happens. But I always start to kick in with Test Ethan & Dbol by week 3, so this stack doesn't seem to be following my normal reaction times.

Regarding work outs, diet, and sleep... I'm not doing anything differently than I have during other cycles. I'm flooding my body with protein both from natural food and supplement sources and I've up'ed my workouts to 6 days a week as opposed to the regular 4 that I do off cycle, which has always worked well for me. So the differentiating factor here is the AS, not the regimine.

I can't definitively say that the Organon deca couldn't be counterfit, but the Organon sust is in sealed glass ampules. And the sust alone should have given me a noticeable boost, even if I wasn't doing the deca at all.
 
Seems like you're just comparing apples to oranges bro .. as an oral, dbol has an immediate impact (It hits me in hard in week 2 and my strength & size seem to go through the roof). Deca on the other hand is much slower acting ... no one can say for sure, but you may just be a week away from some serious mass gains ;)

-gg
 
houseofpain said:
I've had GREAT results in the past on Test Ethan & Dbol stacks. But this time I tried stacking two new types of AS (Sust & Deca), and the results so far have been pretty lame in terms of both weight gain or strength gains.

I started out for the first 3 weeks on 500mg Sust and 200mg Deca. I'm on my 5th week and up to 750mg Sust and 400mg Deca, and I'm in the gym 6 days a week with pretty high intensity routines. But I'm just not seeing much in the way of results other than a little increased vascularity and some minimal strength gains.

Is it possible that I just don't respond well to either one of these types of AS? Or did I just pick a two AS's that don't compliment each other well in a stack?

That's very strange houseof pain. That stack (esp the doasges) should blow you up. Are you sure the gear is legit? What brands are they?
 
for me test has its own mind when deciding to kick in.... my first cycle it kicked in around 4 weeks.... second one it took about 7.... my third it kicked in around 5...... i would wait it out a bit longer before questioning your gear bro..... imo
 
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