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Sust and primo thoughts for a comeback.

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After 13 months out of action with shoulder tendonosis issues I got cleared to start easing myself back into action in another 6 or 7 days.
Plan is, next 8 months will be used to get back into the game slowly and carefully. Starting with baby weights to really let the shoulders acclimate to training.
May 1 next year I am planning my "comeback" cycle. However, this time im not going my usual route which is just mass and holding 16-18% bf. In the avatar i was 269. Got up to 280 before shoulders had enough.
I have been on a journey towards single digit Bf% since april. Down to 222 as of this morning. Top 4 abs becoming visible.
This time I will not start any AAS until I am at least 8 or 9% bf. I never use an AI because I'm not gyno prone. But this time I want to keep water off. Going for dry as possible and shredded.
So in light of my goals I am going with sust as it is my all time favorite. Plus adding Primo this time. Never tried it, always wanted to.
My preliminary plan is 12-16 weeks.(probably 16) Since it will be apx 20 months since i have touched AAS at the planned start time I want to take advantage of fresh receptors and go with just enough to do what I need done. So i'm thinking:

***weeks 1-16, Sust @ 375mg wk. (split in two obviously going up to 500mg if gains taper off)

***weeks 1-16, Primo @ 450 wk. (600mg wk if budget permits)

Unleashed throughout, N2guard throughout, HCG, Aromasin @ 12.5mg eod likely, few other things I cant think of atm.
Also plan on having a few pounds of super plasma protein on hand to add a few (capped in 000) to each meal. Or just buy an assload of "gear" to run 15 caps ed. Whichever is more economical at the time.

Plan is to just have the test onboard at 375 for just a little better than a nice base. Then really concentrate on diet and training and see what the primo gives me.
Atm, i am thinking of starting 500 cals over maintinence and 250g carbs instead of <100 currently. Will adjust all this based on visual bf% anyways.
All still in planning stages anyways.

This time
 
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throw in an oral and you're gtg :evil:
 
Thank you Nelson.

C.K. , Yeah I was thinking trying Var for the first time too with this. But we'll have to see how the budget is at the time. Plus I just had blood work done and My total cholesterol was ok, good cholesterol was perfect and the bad cholesterol was up over the high end for some reason. Diet has been good for the last 4 months for the most part while trying to lose BF%. Did make a few large batches of homemade ice cream a month before the blood work. had at least 2 bowls every day(still lost weight too). Each batch contained 8 cups of heavy cream, 6 cups of half n half, and a bunch of whole milk so I am assuming a month of eating that daily jacked it up. Doing 3 months of Lipid stabil then re checking cholesterol. Dont wanna mess with var unless cholesterol is perfect.


BTW, PCT is still in planning too. Aromasin is likely. Really want to have HMG on hand this time. The one must for me is this time...I will have any and all ancillary cycle and PCT drugs on hand BEFORE even aquiring AAS. That way theres no temptation. Anything for PCT or cycle that is a "supplement" im not so worried about up front.
 
I like it,good plan,and primo is an excellent choice, As it promotes lean muscle gains even in a calorie defecit diet.
 
I like it a lot...im sure you will get greedy and up the Primo later on LOL
 
I ran an almost identical cycle (I ran Var @ 60mg ED and the Primo @ 600mg EW) when I had similar goals. Favorite cycle to date. Hard, dry look and completely lean gains.

If you decide it's an option, definitely run GEAR full time throughout the cycle. Expensive habit but the rewards are fantastic. GEAR is my favorite supplement, hands down. The increase in recovery and anabolism that it promotes are unrivaled in my opinion.

You will LOVE this cycle, especially if you run the Primo @ 600mg :)
 
I forgot to mention also since I am using sust I am going to go 1 ml eod for the first 10-12 days. That will give me somewhat of a jump start. I know there are mixed opinions on this but the EOD on the prop and phenyl prop will get me feeling that warm fuzzy anabolic goodness up front.
Ideally I would start at 375/450 doses and raise to 375/600 in the last 6 weeks or so but again thats going to be budget specific at the time. I'm leaning heavily towards a certain EO based 300mg/ml primo I have been hearing rave reviews about.
The plan with "gear" is to get it up front when needto has another blowout 20% code and order enough bottles (over 10, i forget how many exactly i counted) to run 15 caps ED.
If its not feasible then I will get more super plasma protein (have 1 lb on hand) and cap it in big 000 caps and eat those all day too. Either way I want to super overload the aminos.
I would even consider injectable aminos but thats not really an easy or economic solution.
 
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