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Supplements to aid insomnia

Seashell, you're asking for a fanny kicking! :) Going to sleep the second you hit the pillow....(grumble)...why I aughta pound you.
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Wow, its kind of liberating to get verification of my insomnia/exercise theory. Like finding out your PMS is real and out just "in your head".

So what, if anything, aids the reduction of cortisol levels? Will the ZMA/melatonin stack help that?
 
Ceebs said:


Without a doubt. Frequent intense training will engender lots of cortisol being released, which will make it hard for you to rest up.

And it's a vicious circle, too, because the less rested you are, the more cortisol you have floating around, which in turn will prevent you from resting, which in turn will increase cortisol... :insane:


Hmmm. Ceebs, does this happen right away with intense workouts or does it build up over time? I'm wondering if my inability to sleep is caused by the cortisol at this point. When I wasn't sleeping before it was because of emotional issues, the intense workouts would put me to sleep. Now even though I workout hard, I still can't sleep.
 
Ceebs: Sometimes I'd like to trade! :) Like everyday about 5:20 am when my alarm goes off... UGG.. cannot wake up...am comatose..

Anya: Hehe, sorry sister, I guess that wasn't helpful. Though it can be a bad thing as well. At a previous job, I worked 8-4. One day my alarm didn't go off.. I woke up at 2 PM. How do you explain that one?!! I frantically tried to think of a lie that would sound more believable than the truth, but in the end I just phoned and said ' Umm.. I just woke up.. be there in half an hour". :)
 
To be more helpful though Anya, I could lend you my Assembler Programming book..that's a sure one to have you sleeping in minutes...
 
Seashell said:

Anya: Hehe, sorry sister, I guess that wasn't helpful. Though it can be a bad thing as well. At a previous job, I worked 8-4. One day my alarm didn't go off.. I woke up at 2 PM. How do you explain that one?!! I frantically tried to think of a lie that would sound more believable than the truth, but in the end I just phoned and said ' Umm.. I just woke up.. be there in half an hour". :)

lol, this is funny :lmao:

5-htp works for me, i don't know if most of it is due to a placebo effect.

also lately, i've been taking my cal-mag and B-complex at dinner time, and i now that i think about it, my sleep seems to have improved.
 
I find the harder I train the less sleep I'm able to get too. Lucid...I'm like you with being a night person. I rarely fall asleep before 1-2am. I could easilly stay up till 4 or 5. I've tried all kinds of supplements with no help. Xanax works well but it does screw with my mental capacity if I take it for more than 2 nights in a row.

I recently got a hot tub and after spending some time in it, I curl up in a towel and lay down on the lounge chair and guess what happens? I fall asleep within minutes! I woke up in my backyard a few times in the last 2 weeks. LOL I'm so happy!!! :)
 
Seashell, I studied C++, Java, and Ada(sp?) and I find that stuff pretty interesting, wouldnt put me to sleep. :)


Lucid I think the (possibly) training induced insomnia does build up over time. I've noticed the same pattern you noted with myself.

Today I'm flippin' stoned though....took an OTC sleep aid last night and I'm seriously grogulated.
 
anya said:
Today I'm flippin' stoned though....took an OTC sleep aid last night and I'm seriously grogulated.

At least your dendrites are wiggling enough to make up words like "grogulated". :D
 
Ceebs said:


At least your dendrites are wiggling enough to make up words like "grogulated". :D

LOL, that's typical anya-speak though, requires no creative thought at this point, just retrieval. :D

Ceebs while I've got the on the line, did you post in your neurogenics journal that it caused any insomna? I'm thinking about trying it.
 
anya said:
Ceebs while I've got the on the line, did you post in your neurogenics journal that it caused any insomna? I'm thinking about trying it.

A couple of the ingredients in Neurogenex "can" cause or exacerbate insomnia if you are prone to it. I had horrible insomnia when I started it, but there were a lot of other things it could have been due to. I'm up to three pills a day now and I can fall asleep alright.

Can I pilfer "grogulated"? I'm still giggling to myself about that. :)
 
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