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Summer Cutting Advice
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People are not attacking your weight bro; they are trying to help you understand that you have plenty potential to put on size without steroid use.
What are the other cycles that you have run? What were your stats before and after those?
And just post your diet on here so we can double-check your claim that it is in order.
What are the other cycles that you have run? What were your stats before and after those?
And just post your diet on here so we can double-check your claim that it is in order.
insanityapproved
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Maybe this will help you understand things.
Some people ask me stuff like what did I take and what did I do to get this big.
I reply it's not just about what I took, another very important aspect is WHEN I took it.
I did my first show at 19. At the time I was all natural, didn't even use any kind of supplements. My offseason weight at the time was over 200lbs and competition weight was about 190. Again, this was all without any drugs or supplements used, just pure dedication, passion, gallons of sweat in the gym and a good diet of solid foods. I was bigger at the time than most of the guys here with cycle history.
When I did my first cycle at 20 it was 500mg's of test E per week, no AI's , no PCT, no supplements or anything else. I gained over 30lbs and retained about 20. I felt like I was superman.
And this is why I laugh at skinny guys trying to shape up for summer with several pre-contest drugs stacked at a time ... What will you take then when you get to 200lbs? Double the dosages? Triple them perhaps?
I'm willing to bet you're one of the majority of guys who are "half-assing" at the gym, probably poor diet aswell (most of them think that it's "on spot" of course, but never tell what it actually looks like or when they do they lie to you and themselves) ... and then they try to make up for this lazyness with drugs. Wrong, wrong, wrong .....
Bodybuilding used to be about dedication, passion and hard work. Steroids are a tool that can help you when you have optimised everything else. They're not a shortcut to results. Now it seems like people think they need steroids for any kind of results (which they lack because of the reasons mentioned above) which is so wrong.. I don't have anything against you bro at 150lbs, thats all cool, but you can shape up for the summer without drugs, trust me. And yes I think too that you shouldn't be cutting at 150lbs lol. Don't be another abs bro. people should realise someday that having 6 pack abs is not what gets you laid.
Some people ask me stuff like what did I take and what did I do to get this big.
I reply it's not just about what I took, another very important aspect is WHEN I took it.
I did my first show at 19. At the time I was all natural, didn't even use any kind of supplements. My offseason weight at the time was over 200lbs and competition weight was about 190. Again, this was all without any drugs or supplements used, just pure dedication, passion, gallons of sweat in the gym and a good diet of solid foods. I was bigger at the time than most of the guys here with cycle history.
When I did my first cycle at 20 it was 500mg's of test E per week, no AI's , no PCT, no supplements or anything else. I gained over 30lbs and retained about 20. I felt like I was superman.
And this is why I laugh at skinny guys trying to shape up for summer with several pre-contest drugs stacked at a time ... What will you take then when you get to 200lbs? Double the dosages? Triple them perhaps?
I'm willing to bet you're one of the majority of guys who are "half-assing" at the gym, probably poor diet aswell (most of them think that it's "on spot" of course, but never tell what it actually looks like or when they do they lie to you and themselves) ... and then they try to make up for this lazyness with drugs. Wrong, wrong, wrong .....
Bodybuilding used to be about dedication, passion and hard work. Steroids are a tool that can help you when you have optimised everything else. They're not a shortcut to results. Now it seems like people think they need steroids for any kind of results (which they lack because of the reasons mentioned above) which is so wrong.. I don't have anything against you bro at 150lbs, thats all cool, but you can shape up for the summer without drugs, trust me. And yes I think too that you shouldn't be cutting at 150lbs lol. Don't be another abs bro. people should realise someday that having 6 pack abs is not what gets you laid.
training700
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Amen
goaltender28
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anon for your asking heres my diet...
Meal 1- 1.75 scoop myofusion, 1.5 cups oatmeal
Meal 2- 1.5 cups cottage cheese, 1.5 cups kashi go lean
Meal 3- 6oz chicken, 1 cup b rice, 1 cup green pepper, 1/2 cup onion
Meal 4- 6oz shrimp, 1 cup b rice, 1 cup mushroom, 1/2 cup oinion
Meal 5- 6oz x-lean ground beef, 1 cup b rice, 1/2 cup green pepper, 1/2 cup mushroom, 1/2 cup oinion
Snacking between meals(if needed)- 1/2 to 1 Full cucumber with 3 tbsp max dressing
During workout- 20g isolate protein, 10g glutamine, 20g dextrose
After workout- 60g isolate protein, 20g glutamine, 80g dextrose
Roughly 4200 cals
Meal 1- 1.75 scoop myofusion, 1.5 cups oatmeal
Meal 2- 1.5 cups cottage cheese, 1.5 cups kashi go lean
Meal 3- 6oz chicken, 1 cup b rice, 1 cup green pepper, 1/2 cup onion
Meal 4- 6oz shrimp, 1 cup b rice, 1 cup mushroom, 1/2 cup oinion
Meal 5- 6oz x-lean ground beef, 1 cup b rice, 1/2 cup green pepper, 1/2 cup mushroom, 1/2 cup oinion
Snacking between meals(if needed)- 1/2 to 1 Full cucumber with 3 tbsp max dressing
During workout- 20g isolate protein, 10g glutamine, 20g dextrose
After workout- 60g isolate protein, 20g glutamine, 80g dextrose
Roughly 4200 cals
insanityapproved
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You are cutting with 4200cals at 150lbs? That's the amount I bulk with at almost twice your weight 
goaltender28
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Insanity I get that now can you please help me understand something. No attitude intended and correct me if im wrong, but on the bases of me lifting hard as well as heavy until closer till my goal date. Does it not make sense to try and put on as much weight as possible and then change diet accordingly to give myself that lean hardened look im going for?
goaltender28
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And thats another reason im getting defensive, I put a compound list up and no one asked my game plan they assumed I was doing it a certain way without completely knowing.
squatzilla
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WHY are you using steroids? Goaltender28 are you a soccer player?
To lose fat up the cardio & lower the calories-it's that simple
YOU do not need AAS.
insanityapproved
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Of course it does not make sense.
If you try to "put up as much weight as possible" it will be mostly fat. You will get fat and then try cutting it out which will result in failure because you will lose most if not all of the muscle gained in the process aswell. So no.
And like said above, you don't need any AAS, you need to lower calories if you want a "lean hardened look". At 150lbs and 15% you're probably just skinny fat. Your stats could aswell apply to most people who never lifted in their life. So please, think again.
If you want a lean look you should first diet down a little and then start putting on quality weight. Like I said before, there are no shortcuts.
