Stop or Continue Cycle? Possible Liver Toxicity

[Uber-Joey]

Hey all, need some major help.

Currently running my 2nd cycle (helladrol 75mg at 6 weeks) [log here]and began experiencing the following symptoms and sides in the first week:

• fatigue/depression/tired, almost everyday for a few hrs
• nausea, gagging like i am going to puke, the past 3-4 days
• stomach cramping since yesterday
• major gas, some stinky ass ones at times
• mild headaches throughout the day since start of cycle
• a few occurrences of blood in stool
• one occurrence of light dripping of blood after stools (may have been from heavy lifting squat day)
• light diahrea this morning, with a dark greener color

I am up 6lbs in the first week, strength is already improving, but do not know if i should continue or stop the cycle. It sounds almost like liver toxicity, but I could just be sick from something else. I eat a meal before anything is taken, and my carbs is currently 225-250g everyday, with the same amount of protein. I'm 5'6, 158lbs, 10% - 10.5% BF. Here is currently what I am taking:

• Helladrol - 75/75/75/75/75/75
• CEL cycle assist (8 caps split)
• Beta maxx (6 caps ED)
• HCGenerate (5 caps - 3am, 2pm)
• Costco Multivitamin
• Fish Oil
• Standard whey protein (2 a day) at 52g protein each
• Mass gainer shake (1 a day) at 62g protein

My Proposed Plan

1. Option 1: continue cycle, order forged liver support or liver juice. while waiting, order a liver support from a local store.
   
2. Option 2: stop consuming helladrol, order katandrol (due to non liver toxic and previous no-issue experience). while waiting for a week, just cycle HCGenerate. finish 4 week cycle with katanadrol. My changed cycle would look like this:
   
   • 
     Week 1 - Helladrol 75mg ED
     Week 2 - HCGenerate 7 caps split ED
     Week 3-6 - Katanadrol v2.0 250mg ED
3. Option 3: stop cycle altogether

My Questions

1. Has anyone experienced this? Is this liver toxicity? I ran beastdrol/katanadrol and did not experience this.
2. What option is best for me?
3. If i continue, what liver support/protectant do you all recommend me buying at a local store until forged liver support comes? I dont think CEL cycle assist is enough obviously.

 

[tocayo]

I'll stop, and get some lab work done as soon as possible.

That is just my opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sherk]

It shouldn't be a question you need to ask. Your body is telling you something so listen to it. Stop the cycle and flush your system and go see a dr if it doesn't get better. Also get a blood test done and find out your liver value. BE SMART!!!!!

 

[Uber-Joey]

Not what I wanted to hear of course, but thanks for the advice guys.

Do i need to some PCT at all here, or just completely drop it all? I have HCGenerate, Forged Post Cycle and Forma Stanzol.

 

[stevesmi]

doubt it.

sounds to me like a stomach flu or food poisoning.

i would stop taking it and be very careful what you eat for the next few days. and you should start feeling better.

dark green shit is usually a symptom of IBS or bacteria in the stomach built up. it hopefully will go away on its own, otherwise see a gastro who knows what they are doing. also you should go back to the day it started happening and find out what you ate.. it could of been rotten meat, fruit, or something else. find out what it was and don't repeat the same error

 

[w8lifter747]

Is the blood in the stool dark or bright red blood? Do you have hemorrhoids? That maybe the cause of the bleeding. I agree with what Stevemi says also...

 

[Uber-Joey]

It was bright red blood. I do also think it was internal hemroids, but that was only one occurrence thankfully and no pain.

 

[freakshow85]

I would GUESS that bright red blood would not be something caused internally by Helladrol. I mean, anything is possible, but I would venture to believe that something caused internally by Hella would cause very dark stool if you were to have bleeding. Red blood in the stool are usually hemorrhoids from what I've seen people write.

I'm not trying to encourage you to continue your cycle, but I don't think that is related. It's risky giving advice about things like this, but you already know I'm not a doctor, so it's just bro stuff.

 

[21"GunSalute]

Yeah man if it was me i would def stop and see if all this clears up in a few days, if not go see a doc. I know its hard as hell to stop a cycle, believe me ive done it in the past, but you need to. At least get yourself better so you know if its the hella or not. You have plenty of years ahead of you to do cycles, no sense on ruining all of that now. Good luck man

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[igomad]

that's very unlikely to be due to liver toxicity. Like stevesmi said.

liver toxicity is a silent killer and it usually goes very far without any real symptoms. I've had my liver enzymes elevated way above anything considered normal once (not because of AAS but some other meds) and haven't felt anything.