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i've been reading about how HRT can improve heart function and also how steroid abuse can cause heart damage and heart attacks. how much do you guys think would be considered abuse?
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depends on the steroid.
but in general abuse would be someone who is 300 pounds and 30% bf who takes steroids and sends their already high bp sky rocketing. that would be abuse.
you should be <15% to even consider roids. and that is for someone older then 30... if you are younger you should be <12%
but in general abuse would be someone who is 300 pounds and 30% bf who takes steroids and sends their already high bp sky rocketing. that would be abuse.
you should be <15% to even consider roids. and that is for someone older then 30... if you are younger you should be <12%
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the less out of shape you are and starting a cycle the more the risks,i personally thinks somone should commit at least 5-6 years hard training before even touching steroids
Bloodgame3
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yeah its not me im worried about it was just for discussion 
the hearts a muscle. it will respond to stress and aas. the amount and duration used are a big part of the issue. i think t3 and clen are much worse for the heart than most aas. anything 17aa that plays with cholesterol too much also contributes. same with bp. its actually better to have high bp consistently than varying levels. thats what my nephrologist told me and thats part of his specialty.
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interesting
needtogetaas
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well thats a big load of crap!!!!!!!
go ahead and post this crap on some forums like Bad Attitude GymEliteFTS, Fortified Iron, Go Heavy, Outlaws, PowerliftingUK ,Wanna Be Big. Or walk op to about 85% of any of the defensive tackles in the NFL and say that to there face lmao.. Pretty sure many of them have and will be living long and healthy lives my friend.
Bloodgame3
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are you talking about the BF% needto? cuz your right those lineman look about 30% fat the offensive lineman are the real fat ones tho!
the offensive lineman are the real fat ones tho!needtogetaas
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are you talking about the BF% needto? cuz your right those lineman look about 30% fat
Well 30% is really pushing it but enough then.. There is many many things people do that can cause health problems. From the crap they sell in pre packed feed containers and cans, bk and mc-d's , smaking, drinking, eating candy, all kinds of shit all over the place causes health problems of all kinds.
I think taking some lower doses of steroids when you are above 15% body fat Don't seem to rank that much higher on the sharts of un healthy things one could do if you ask me. I mean if that was the only unhealthy thing you were doing then what ever.
Now if you are drinking all the time, smoking butts, eating triple cheese burgers and pizza, well hardly working out at all and injecting steroids. I think you might want to change that before its to late....
