steroids on the heart

[Bloodgame3]

mmmmmm havent had a triple burger in a long time

 

[ledhead]

the hearts a muscle. it will respond to stress and aas. the amount and duration used are a big part of the issue. i think t3 and clen are much worse for the heart than most aas. anything 17aa that plays with cholesterol too much also contributes. same with bp. its actually better to have high bp consistently than varying levels. thats what my nephrologist told me and thats part of his specialty.

Yep, especially winny, screwed up my lipids so bad it scared me half to death.

I think the only roid that is safe to some point is TEST.

 

[timtim]

Yep, especially winny, screwed up my lipids so bad it scared me half to death.

I think the only roid that is safe to some point is TEST.

i had 0 hdl and 191 ldl after my last winstrol run like 8 years ago. never again.

 

[ledhead]

i had 0 hdl and 191 ldl after my last winstrol run like 8 years ago. never again.

Ditto, for me "never again" watch out for TREN too, that shit will kill you off as quick as
winny!

 

[joe d]

i've been reading about how HRT can improve heart function and also how steroid abuse can cause heart damage and heart attacks. how much do you guys think would be considered abuse?

this is the dangerous mystery. everyone is different and can handle diferent amounts. its not just steroids though. big diets, excess weight, hard training, stimulants, steroids, stress all are a part of the equasion that lead to heart problems. i was lucky enough to survive my lesson.

the bottom line is no matter how careful you think you are and no matter how much you think you are keeping things under control you are adding to your risk if you are gaining excess mass.

moderation is the key. if you can just use low doses, train smart, carry a little extra size, eat healthy, stay active with running biking ect, then you can cut your risks by a lot while still having your fun with it. of course this can be done naturally to.

trt for those who have low test is another story.

 

[timtim]

Ditto, for me "never again" watch out for TREN too, that shit will kill you off as quick as
winny!

1st run with deca took me nearly a year to recover. i learned from that experience that deca, anadrol, tren, npp, and any other nandro is off my list. test, eq, primo, and masteron (which i just started for the 1st time and can already feel the hardening effects) are all ill take. no stimulants either.

 

[ledhead]

1st run with deca took me nearly a year to recover. i learned from that experience that deca, anadrol, tren, npp, and any other nandro is off my list. test, eq, primo, and masteron (which i just started for the 1st time and can already feel the hardening effects) are all ill take. no stimulants either.

Same here, only thing I'll use is Test, Eq .I thought Masteron is as bad as tren and winny!

 

[timtim]

Same here, only thing I'll use is Test, Eq .I thought Masteron is as bad as tren and winny!

its injectible proviron.

 

[ledhead]

its injectible proviron.

O' that's good then! How long for the Primo to kick in? and how do you dose it?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Testosterone is heart healthy. Most everything else isn't, especially orals. But too much test will increase blood pressure which puts a strain on the heart.