Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below im new on here and im considering steroids. i am 23 about 5'10 at 160 pounds. im looking to be 180 190 hell even 200 but i want mass. ive been told deca and test and at the end of the cycle winstrol. like i said im new to this and need help big time. idk the doses or how the shots work weekly or bi weekly .. another question ive researched and found nolvax and clomids. these products are for testys also?
steroid questions HELP!
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RADAR
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First my friend you heard wrong,give us your stats so we can help you
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ChangNam
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Welcome to the board my friend... Here u have top athletes and nice Moderators. And other roid freaks like me and others. Who will try to help u out in the besst way. Sorry english is not my first language. But i hope u understand
160 pounds is not to much. And some say u have to learn how to eat. or work with ur diet. I not know if u train and eat properly already ??
Ok lets talk about steroids bro. This is ur first cycle. So u not need to go crazy. Some will recomend u just test alone. 250-500mg a week for 10-12 weeks. Test alone is ok for a first timer. I would test out test e witch is a depot testo. This u only have to inject 1 or 2 times a week. Test e is also called testo viron or enanthate. And u have test cypionate this is a depot test as well. But i prefer sustanon 250mg who is a 4 difrent test mix 2 short and 2 long acting esters. When u inject sustanon do it work from day 1. Because u have test propionate in it. But with test cyp or test e do u have to wait 3-4 weeks or maby longer before the test kicks in.
I see u posted deca and test. That is a wery nice combo. Test e and deca was my first cycle. I gained 15kg's in just 6 weeks. Wow i was fucking happy about my first cycle. I not know how long u planing to stay on ?? And u had idea to add winny in the end. To harden up or lean out. Then i would use it for minimum 4 weeks up !!
Clomid and Nolvadex is also called a SERM. Serms are used to block estrogen levels and water retention. And also used in ur PCT. Pct = phost cycle therapy. This is something u do after ur cycle. To regain fatser from ur cycle. And to help ur own pody start up ur own hormone production again.
What is ur idea for Pct ??
C0LUMB0
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you could make good progress towards hitting 180lbs by putting a good bulking diet together.
there's tons of good info in the diet section that will help .
Regarding doing a cycle ...You would need to do PLENTY of research before talking about shots and doseages .
Again ,all the information is here on EF .
Read the stickies and pay particular attention to what PCT is all about and also possible side effects.
there's tons of good info in the diet section that will help .
Regarding doing a cycle ...You would need to do PLENTY of research before talking about shots and doseages .
Again ,all the information is here on EF .
Read the stickies and pay particular attention to what PCT is all about and also possible side effects.
Test is best I don't know why people like using test e or c and waiting 6 weeks to feel anything when I feel sust by the second jab
i agree.. sustanon is the best.
and i feel the first esther within 48 hours.
Dude if I were you and knowing what I know right now, I would really suggest that you very seriously consider a good hard look at your diet and a power lifting type of workout. When you start getting into steroids there is so much more then just shooting the juice. So many times guys dont put in the time for research and learning. These are powerful drugs that can really fuck you up and people just dont seem to get that. Even for guys that have had expereince there are still plenty that get pretty fucked up. I know you say to yourself that wont happen to me. But my friend the percentages are not in your favor. LIke stevesmi said read his post on bloodwork, and there are countless others that you should read too.
Dude you are only 23, you really are not ready to go on steroids yet.
But most likely you are gonna do it anyway so the best thing that I can tell you is this.
READ EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN FINE ON HERE ABOUT TEST AND DECA CYCLES.
READ EVERYTHING ON HERE THAT YOU CAN FIND ON PCT.
PM guys like Needto, joed, Radar, etc.
And hopefully you will either A, not do a cycle yet and really learn about diet and working out,
OR
B, you will at least be educated and hopefully have a good cycle.
Good luck.
Dude you are only 23, you really are not ready to go on steroids yet.
But most likely you are gonna do it anyway so the best thing that I can tell you is this.
READ EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN FINE ON HERE ABOUT TEST AND DECA CYCLES.
READ EVERYTHING ON HERE THAT YOU CAN FIND ON PCT.
PM guys like Needto, joed, Radar, etc.
And hopefully you will either A, not do a cycle yet and really learn about diet and working out,
OR
B, you will at least be educated and hopefully have a good cycle.
Good luck.
23, 5'10". 160 lbs.
Not nearly ready enough naturally first. First off based on the questions you have asked and the way you have asked them you have no iea what your doing or what you think your about to do OR about the drugs you want to put in your body and how they work ect. NOW....this isnt an insult my friend. Your new. Everyone is new once. I was 21 when i was in your shoes. 6'0" and 165 lbs. I didnt have this place back then though to guide me on the right path. I could have easily got to 200 lb natty first. And should have.
You cannot even consider steroids until you have a serious handle on how to diet for different goals and how to lift on a split that is best for you. Also how to lift with intensity. Going to the gym and lifting and "trying hard" and sweating and doing more weight than what allows perfect form does NOT equal intensity. There are WAY WAY more factors here than just a syringe and a needle and a bottle of test.
You simply have to ask yourself one question....Do I want to do this right and reap serious rewards from it? OR...Do I want this to be a colossal failure?
If your smart your train your ass off with help to do it the right way from our training forum and you will learn how to eat to build lots of muscle from our diet forum. If your smart you'll do that for a year. Lots of these guys will tell you 3-5 years. I'm being realistic. NO one is going to wait 3-5 years without saying fuck those guys advice i'm trying it anyways.
1 year may seem like a long time. But if you eat, train and supplement correctly I guarantee you will put on 20-30 lb. Might not be all muscle but you'll have a nice base to work with. Then when you have your shit together in all other aspects then you can add steroids if you want to.
Do what you will, but I was in your shoes too. But this was 97', so I had no internet and no help. You have all the help and support you will need right here on EF if you stick around. Ther is NO better place.
Not nearly ready enough naturally first. First off based on the questions you have asked and the way you have asked them you have no iea what your doing or what you think your about to do OR about the drugs you want to put in your body and how they work ect. NOW....this isnt an insult my friend. Your new. Everyone is new once. I was 21 when i was in your shoes. 6'0" and 165 lbs. I didnt have this place back then though to guide me on the right path. I could have easily got to 200 lb natty first. And should have.
You cannot even consider steroids until you have a serious handle on how to diet for different goals and how to lift on a split that is best for you. Also how to lift with intensity. Going to the gym and lifting and "trying hard" and sweating and doing more weight than what allows perfect form does NOT equal intensity. There are WAY WAY more factors here than just a syringe and a needle and a bottle of test.
You simply have to ask yourself one question....Do I want to do this right and reap serious rewards from it? OR...Do I want this to be a colossal failure?
If your smart your train your ass off with help to do it the right way from our training forum and you will learn how to eat to build lots of muscle from our diet forum. If your smart you'll do that for a year. Lots of these guys will tell you 3-5 years. I'm being realistic. NO one is going to wait 3-5 years without saying fuck those guys advice i'm trying it anyways.
1 year may seem like a long time. But if you eat, train and supplement correctly I guarantee you will put on 20-30 lb. Might not be all muscle but you'll have a nice base to work with. Then when you have your shit together in all other aspects then you can add steroids if you want to.
Do what you will, but I was in your shoes too. But this was 97', so I had no internet and no help. You have all the help and support you will need right here on EF if you stick around. Ther is NO better place.
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