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coyotekid84

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I'm going to prompt this by saying, I know i'm in the early stages of a very, very long journey to the body that i'm happy with. I'm def intersted in a valid help on what to concentrate on other than just, "get bigger". Bench=185x1, squat= 165x1,deadlfit=185x3(can't hold on the bar)
5'8 165lbs 14%bf 24 yrs old, been lifting forever but only seriously since last december.
http://i35.tinypic.com/2elxb3l.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2i9judw.jpg
 
Second link is broken for me. Stick around here. Read ask questions and eat! You'll be happy w/ your progress...
 
Having started my journey about 15 years ago (on and off) at a height of 6 foot 5 and a weight of 140lbs I have tried everything to add more than 100lbs to my frame and I am still continuing my journey looking for perfection. One thing I can tell you is perfection will never be found but you can come very close to it.

Don't be fooled, don't go for lifting heavy thinking the more you life or the heavier you lift the better it is for your body and ego. Learn to really isolate the muscles and make the muscles you are training work rather than trying to use 10 other supporting muscles. You do not need heavy weight to get big. It's progressive.

Don't neglect your diet and make sure you consume a good healthy diet with high protein.

For the first 6mths if you have not been working out seriously already train the big muscles with the big exercises:

Squats
Bench
Lateral pull down/raises
Military Press

(form over weight everytime and make sure you warm up).

I could type a book but I am sure others will chime in.

Good luck!
 
No flames bro, we all started somewhere. Slin gives great advice, diet is key to everything you're looking for. I'm giving you a free week to do research.
 
You have done some cycles???? Maybe i misunderstood. You are waaaaayyyyyy too underdeveloped to be cycling. Not a flame, but your diet is not on point and you seriously lack muscle maturity and you should not even think about doing a cycle until you get your workouts/diet worked out. Do you have a small case of gyno? looks like some small lumps under the nips.
 
I didnt get the impression that you were starting gear tomorrow. I hope I read that right. I mean this sincerly, IF your training is even decent, you should be bigger. You should be taking in more calories than 3500. Bump the cals and focus on delts,chest,arms, I mean NO offense bro, you had the nuts to post up pics and ask for advice, that is a lot in and of itself. What exactly are you looking to do ? Bigger chest ? Arms ? Thick muscular look or shredded up look ? at 5 8 you look about a buck 40 no kidding. Full body shot would be good. Im 510 and in pictures bros say I look 180 or so and I am 205 or so, so maybe the camera takes away 20 lbs. lol...

You CAN gain lots of muscle at your age. You have to force feed yourself more cals and workout harder than you are. Do you have a workout partner ? Post up your exercise schedule with reps/weight etc..

I know a lot of hard gainers and there are bros here who are, who have gained a lot of muscle but not without hard work.

Good luck with your goals, give us as much info as you can, bros here respond A LOT more and help A LOT more if you put the whole package up. There are bros on here that will def help you get to your goal, we need to know what that goal is though.

ps, get some wrist straps :)
 
cycles not yet. i took some ph for a month to test it out. after being on the forums i would like to gain 15lbs before i do anything else.
gyno what? i knw wht it is but i don't think so
 
Ok guys i'm going to log my daily routen for a week and be 100% honest and want you guys to critique me.
work out:
army pt, numerous pu su crunches, planks, etc etc 2.5 miles
#1 at 0720 1/2 serving of protein and a multi-grain bagel(plain) 700 cal
#2 at 1000 4 eggs 4 slices of wht bread and 4oz yogurt 700 cal
#3 at 1300 6oz chkn, 1 cup beans, 1 cup brown rice, wheat wrap, and shredded cheese ???
#4 at 1700 full serving of cytogainer and greek yougurt 800 cal
#5 at 2000 1 can tuna, 1 can green beans, 1 cup brown rice. ???
 
first off bro, lets see some of your goals and what kind of lifting program your on and your lifting history. you are DEFinately not ready for a cycle yet bro. i would eat more cals and lift natural for at least a year or two before doing a cycle if at all.

in your diet be sure to include complex carbohydrates and 1-1.5g protein per bodyweight. oats and whole wheat toast and eggs in the mourning. shakes in between meals. snacking on berries and almonds and anpb & honey sandwitches, chicken and brown rice, tuna and salmon, and a ton of red meat and milk with fibrous greens and lean veggies are going to make you lean and big bro! along with hard cleans, squats, deadlifts, and core exercises. you have to build a foundation before you start a cycle! start a journal and check out Madcow's 5x5
Lift Big! Eat Big!
 
aug181983 said:
damn dude ur super tiny.......u need to eat atleast 5000-6000 cal. a day and work harder at the gym .....good luck
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fuck that shit.

i hate it when everyone recommends some 165 pound dude to eat 6k cals a day, that's fucking ridiculous. even if you were on deca,test, and dbol i wouldn't recommend that many calories. there'smore to it than just raw calories and "Training harder".

eat smarter, train smarter. get high protein (1g per pound minimum) in the form of real food (red meat, fish, eggs, chicken, turkey, pork, lentils, chickpeas, beans are all high protein foods) with maybe 1 whey shake pre/post workout. don't think you can just drink whey and get built. have a good amount of healthy fats (and a little unhealthy fats are okay too) with some good carbs.

rome wasn't built in a day and your body can only use so many calories to build muscle, as long as you're in a decent calorie surplus (500 cals over) that's all you need.

no need to get diabetes, a spare tire, and crohn's disease because you want to be bulked up.

take your time, slow steady gains are key, and your health is important so don't eat 6k cals a day, try maybe 2750-3000 and you'll put good size on.

and you aren't like one of those super lean ectos so you don't need ridiculous cals like that, you WILL get fat if you eat that much and you will feel like ass 24/7.

eating a surplus is important but take your time and do it right.
 
10001110101 said:
fuck that shit.

i hate it when everyone recommends some 165 pound dude to eat 6k cals a day, that's fucking ridiculous. even if you were on deca,test, and dbol i wouldn't recommend that many calories. there'smore to it than just raw calories and "Training harder".

eat smarter, train smarter. get high protein (1g per pound minimum) in the form of real food (red meat, fish, eggs, chicken, turkey, pork, lentils, chickpeas, beans are all high protein foods) with maybe 1 whey shake pre/post workout. don't think you can just drink whey and get built. have a good amount of healthy fats (and a little unhealthy fats are okay too) with some good carbs.

rome wasn't built in a day and your body can only use so many calories to build muscle, as long as you're in a decent calorie surplus (500 cals over) that's all you need.

no need to get diabetes, a spare tire, and crohn's disease because you want to be bulked up.

take your time, slow steady gains are key, and your health is important so don't eat 6k cals a day, try maybe 2750-3000 and you'll put good size on.

and you aren't like one of those super lean ectos so you don't need ridiculous cals like that, you WILL get fat if you eat that much and you will feel like ass 24/7.

eating a surplus is important but take your time and do it right.
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This is the most meaningful post about food of seen in a while...and you absolutely spot on the the 6k a day. That will lead to nothing but fat. If you are a very active football player or someone who trains hard for comeptitions then 6k is warented...otherwise 9 out of 10 times is not. I've gained plenty over the years and very rare I've touched 6k a day...4k was more the norm...with 250-350g of protein daily. Consistency is key to success, eating the same calories day in and day out is hard to do but the only way to put on size
good post bro
 
do not eat the same cals day in and day iout. consistantly add more cals. eat the cals that you would eat if you were 10 lbs heavier and increase as you grow. eating the same calcs will not do anything for growth same as using the same weight day in and day out think about it.
 
coyotekid84 said:
I'm going to prompt this by saying, I know i'm in the early stages of a very, very long journey to the body that i'm happy with. I'm def intersted in a valid help on what to concentrate on other than just, "get bigger". Bench=185x1, squat= 165x1,deadlfit=185x3(can't hold on the bar)
5'8 165lbs 14%bf 24 yrs old, been lifting forever but only seriously since last december.
http://i35.tinypic.com/2elxb3l.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2i9judw.jpg
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No fucking way you are even maxing out at 185 flat bench. 135 TOPS. no ned to fabricate brah, we all started somewhere.
 
pdaddyII said:
No fucking way you are even maxing out at 185 flat bench. 135 TOPS. no ned to fabricate brah, we all started somewhere.
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Meh, - I believe him. I've seen skinny kids like that do it and he is 165. But damn he needs to eat...
 
compare your pics in a few yers to these and you will see some great progress by stickin to the boards and learning from the diet adn training forums!
 
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