started TRT today with test cyp

[Zyglamail]

Insulin resistance comes from long periods of poor dietary choices. Low test can aggravate and make the condition easier to come by as well. In terms of feeling like shit after eating carbs, especially grains you could have gluten problems. One easy way to find out how food affects you is simply commit to 4 weeks of the paleo diet. Do a google on it, its not calorie restricted at all but your food choices are limited.

 

[XMAN.]

Hey guys
Got another new set of results today

Total T 17.9 Range 8.4 to 28.7
Free T. 49.5 Range 25.0 to 80.0
Estradiol 149 Range 43 to 151

Doc was unwilling to think I need an increase, or in need of something to
Bring estrogen down.
When I said I still feel terrible all he offered was "maybe it's something else"

This got me to thinking, maybe so, I'm inclined to believe the estrogen is causing issues
Just because around week 3 I started to feel a bit better, then it quickly went away.

So I'm asking all u more experienced guys, what else do u think could be happening here?
I know the adrenals could have issues, do adrenal glands interfere with the testosterone
Doing it's job?
My numbers are far from great , but it's odd that since I had very low numbers
To now with the numbers higher, not much in the way of improvement has been seen.

I so badly want to start self meditating just based on what I've learned so far.
But if I do that I'll screw myself. Cause I see the endo march 7 th and she'll want
To run her own tests.
It's just really getting to me now that's it's 10 weeks in and I'm still not really
Different then week 1 .
And the more I read online about other guys stories, and there are so many
Guys who say they've had 2 or 3 shots of the same amount as me, and
There feeling great, it's great for them, but depressing for me, I'm feeling
As thought something else is wrong with me.

Thanx guys

i personally suggests that u buy online an AI and start taking it and tell ur new doc u really felt like shit and had a high estro count she'll understand , keep the same test dose but have an AI asap, i suggests Aromasin about 12.5mg eod (my estimation for ur case u may need more)
plus it'll lower ur SHBG and free up more test then u'll notice a big change in ur mood, ur numbers are still in the mid ranges , means not hat much , for ur symptoms u may eventually later increase ur test dose with ur new doc, but meanwhile what u can do is start an AI now.
good luck bro

 

[augor]

Thanx for the reply

That's actually what I've done.
I got some arimidex .5mg tabs
I was told by a friend who's had experience with this stuff, to take 1 a day for a week
Then switch to 1 every 2 days

Does that sound about right?

Been taking it for 3 days now, no noticeable difference.

 

[XMAN.]

Thanx for the reply

That's actually what I've done.
I got some arimidex .5mg tabs
I was told by a friend who's had experience with this stuff, to take 1 a day for a week
Then switch to 1 every 2 days

Does that sound about right?

Been taking it for 3 days now, no noticeable difference.

sounds good , good luck

 

[augor]

Hey all
Been awhile since I updated, got my shot increased to 125 a week about 3 weeks ago, feeling better.
Latest blood test results show my numbers are slightly above mid-range.
Finally had my appointment with the endo today.
Sadly I'm not feeling better about this whole journey.
The endo tells me right off, she wants me off the injections, and in 4 weeks to get more blood tests dome to see where I'm at
But.... This is after she's already told me that after this many weeks of being on injections my natural production will be shut down
So i say, what exactly are you gonna see on this blood test that will help you?
My body won't be making test, and the injection test will be fading away from my system.
The results will be low, your not gonna get a clear picture of what I can produce if I'm shut down.
I tell her i would need to be on something like HCG to kick start my natural production.
She tells me ,no I don't do that.
I'm like WTF? It doesn't start back up by itself.

I believe she's probably a good endo for other areas, but not TRT
Many things she had to say go against what most of know are truths about how things really work.

She tells me 125mg a week is way to high, I'm gonna lose my hair.....well that's a yes and no, if I'm predisposed and have elevated levels of test, then yes.
Then she went on to say , are u feeling better? I say yes it's getting there, she tells me , well of course u are, any man taking injections will have more energy and feel better.
She basically said that the injections will make me feel better then the same amount of natural would.
Again WTF ? If test cyp is meant to be 96% same as what a man can produce , then why would she think the injections would give me more of a good feeling, as though it was just a feel good drug.
I understand if taken in very high doses, this would be true, but not when your only taking enough to get your numbers slightly above mid range.

One more thing too, when she looked at my original blood results, she told me, I don't know why your doctor even started injections, your results were normal. But they clearly werent.
She says free test is not the important one, and that I should have had the bio-available testosterone test done...... Any truth to that part?

Anyways sorry for the extra long post, and I didn't even type all I wanted to say!
Lol

Thanx

 

[Athlete32]

Get a new Endo. She clearly has no idea as to what you're going through.

 

[augor]

I wish I could, for Canada its different, I have to referred by my family doc
And we don't have alot of endos
And sadly there all a 3-4 month waiting period

 

[augor]

Thought I'd update my original thread, it's been awhile.
Been on 125 from the doc since around feb , felt good.
Did a cycle in April with 450 test a week, got some good results.
Now I'm just leaning out, and have an appoint with a new endo in november.

Had been cursing for the last 9 weeks at 250 a week (125 extra I give myself)
Feels great , 250 for sure keeps my levels where they should be, from looking at the blood work on 125 a week
My levels were alittle bit over mid range, so for at least 250 isn't a high number.

 

[theemperor]

So, what is your range at right now with that dose of 250mgs a week for 9 weeks you been under on the scale for men??

 

[Zyglamail]

Any suggestions would be great
Thanx
Steve

Find a new doc.