started TRT today with test cyp

[augor]

44 yrs old, 180 lbs decent shape

Blood test results came back
I'm in canada so my numbers look very different

Total testosterone scale 8.0-12.8. I was 7.0
Free test range was 25-40. I was 25.8

Doc says to me today "your not that low" !
I'm like what? Your kidding right?

Anywayz started my first shot today 200mg test cyp
He wants to give that to me once a month!
I told him all the research I've done, but he insists its a slow release test and 1 month will be fine.

I told him I want another blood test in 3 weeks, and then he'll see its not such a great starting point afterall.

I told him there are many men who are getting 100mg a week, he says 200 a month should be more then enough, and that he may consider every 2 weeks, but at 100mg .

Don't know what estrogen levels were, apperantly canada doesn't check that.

Any suggestions would be great
Thanx
Steve

 

[augor]

I should also add, as for my symptoms, I've been going through the lethargy, no sex drive, basic halt to what used to make me happy and such.

And when I suggested to at least do 50mg a week, he says that's no good, then u might get the ladder effect.
As though 50mg a week was a lot of test!

The part that bugs me the most, is when we looked at the numbers and I said, I should be on the high end,and he said no way.
I said to him, the range your showing me is meant to be what a man my age should have, now if my body hadn't failed me, I might be producing those levels.
So why would u dent me the level at what I should be?

 

[augor]

I should also add, as for my symptoms, I've been going through the lethargy, no sex drive, basic halt to what used to make me happy and such.

And when I suggested to at least do 50mg a week, he says that's no good, then u might get the ladder effect.
As though 50mg a week was a lot of test!

The part that bugs me the most, is when we looked at the numbers and I said, I should be on the high end,and he said no way.
I said to him, the range your showing me is meant to be what a man my age should have, now if my body hadn't failed me, I might be producing those levels.
So why would u dent me the level at what I should be?

 

[caribeman]

Find a new doc...

 

[augor]

Its not as easy in canada.
With out health care, u can't just shop around for another doc.
And family doctors are rarely taking new patients.
My only hope will be to get a referral to an endo

 

[johnchimpo]

Good luck with your HRT. I just switched from test cyp to bioidentical cream. 100 mg test cyp every 5 days is what i did and worked well for me!

 

[XMAN.]

change ur doc ASAP
u should get at least 100mg of test per week and pin at least once a week (if not twice which is better)
standard TRT dose worldwide is 100-200mg/week
leave this fucking ignorant and look for another , even if u have to self medicate for a while , and do ur blood test on ur own.
just keep posting here.
good luck

 

[augor]

Thanx for the replies,

It sucks that I might just feel better for a few days, and then drift back again.

My doc told me he has other trt patients on the same monthly dose, and there fine, if so there's no way there levels are very low then.

Hell even the manufacturer of the test cyp says the recommended dose is 200 weekly

 

[augor]

Something I can't seem to find a clear answer on....
The doc gave me a 200mg shot, now I know the half life is 8 days, and day 8 is when the shot will raise the levels to the max (the max the dose can raise)
And after that levels fall back to where they were.
and by day 14-18 levels will be where u started correct?
What I need to know is will this one shot and any effect it may cause be done by 21 days?
Or does the slow ether actually last longer?
I know in terms of guys who use test in a cycle, they always say its 4-5 weeks before u see or feel benifits.

My doc has me going for blood tests again exactly 21 days after the shot, so he can show me it has improved my test levels, what do u think it will show?
Will my levels be different 21 days after a single shot, or will they be somewhat where they were when I started?
This is the wrong way to say it, but I'm hoping the levels are the same or worse, just so he can maybe stop being so condisending , and do a proper TRT dosage.

Thanx

 

[XMAN.]

Something I can't seem to find a clear answer on....
The doc gave me a 200mg shot, now I know the half life is 8 days, and day 8 is when the shot will raise the levels to the max (the max the dose can raise)
And after that levels fall back to where they were.
and by day 14-18 levels will be where u started correct?
What I need to know is will this one shot and any effect it may cause be done by 21 days?
Or does the slow ether actually last longer?
I know in terms of guys who use test in a cycle, they always say its 4-5 weeks before u see or feel benifits.

My doc has me going for blood tests again exactly 21 days after the shot, so he can show me it has improved my test levels, what do u think it will show?
Will my levels be different 21 days after a single shot, or will they be somewhat where they were when I started?
This is the wrong way to say it, but I'm hoping the levels are the same or worse, just so he can maybe stop being so condisending , and do a proper TRT dosage.

Thanx

first there's a big misunderstanding about esters half life, cypionate and enanthate have a half life of about 10 days (it varies a little upon individuals and injection site) but what does that means ? it means that if u inject 200mg of test cyp it will take about 10 days for ur body to metabolize the first half of it wich means ur body will use 100mg of it and exert it, then the next 10 days ur body will metabolize the half of the rest which is 50mg and it goes on and on until total exertion from the body.
for example Test cyp 200mg is divided like this:
day 1-10 : 100mg
day 11-20: 50mg
day 21-30: 25mg
day 31-40: 12.5mg
day 41-50: 6.25mg
day 51-60: 3.125mg
day 61-70: 1.562mg keep dividing by 2 each 10 days until total exertion and that's y it is detectable by urine tests after 3 months from the last shot.

another thing is that the half used in a half life is not evenly divided throughout the 10 days, it peaks after injection and keep declining to it's end.
as for cypionate and enanthate they peak arround 24-36 hours after injection and start a slow decline since.

the issue here is even if there's some detectable levels of exogenous test after 21 days but the question is , is it enough to put u on a good normal range? my guess is absolutely not.