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Chances are there natty test is lower than yours not higher.
A single 100mg shot is going to suppress natural production so for people to feel fine on it they must have naturally low test to begin with.
Id also find a new doc.
started TRT today with test cyp
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Chances are there natty test is lower than yours not higher.
A single 100mg shot is going to suppress natural production so for people to feel fine on it they must have naturally low test to begin with.
Id also find a new doc.
augor
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Thanx for the replies
So then I guess the way the test slowly releases by the time I do my blood tests at 21 days, the bulk of the potency of that shot will have passed through, and should result in a low level still.
Great explantion on how long it takes to do its thing, now I see why the dosing every week would be important, and I also get why after about 6 weeks it will kick in more, by then u would have the smaller accumulations adding up together.
To the guy who said a single 100mg shot would feel it more if his natural test was low.
My natural test is low and got a 200mg shot.
I guess everyone is different, I guess I shouldn't have got myself eager to feel something.
Its been 7 days now, and I've actually felt worse the last couple of days.
So then I guess the way the test slowly releases by the time I do my blood tests at 21 days, the bulk of the potency of that shot will have passed through, and should result in a low level still.
Great explantion on how long it takes to do its thing, now I see why the dosing every week would be important, and I also get why after about 6 weeks it will kick in more, by then u would have the smaller accumulations adding up together.
To the guy who said a single 100mg shot would feel it more if his natural test was low.
My natural test is low and got a 200mg shot.
I guess everyone is different, I guess I shouldn't have got myself eager to feel something.
Its been 7 days now, and I've actually felt worse the last couple of days.
XMAN.
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I like to have complete control of my applications or injections. You can sense peaks and valleys after some experience and different tests have different effects.
The smoothest ride is bio applied every day. You get 10-15 mg each day absorbed for about 100 total per week.
Next is 50 mg Thursday am and Sunday pm of any test, even susp. My fav is sust or test p. Right now I'm doing 100 mg primo twice a week as an experiment. It is so gentle, I moved up to 200 mg p/w. Normally I'd call this a stack and a cycle. Not for primo.
Maybe your Dr will allow you to inject yourself. Mine does.
Or move to the dark side and do your own. Add HGH to it too.
The smoothest ride is bio applied every day. You get 10-15 mg each day absorbed for about 100 total per week.
Next is 50 mg Thursday am and Sunday pm of any test, even susp. My fav is sust or test p. Right now I'm doing 100 mg primo twice a week as an experiment. It is so gentle, I moved up to 200 mg p/w. Normally I'd call this a stack and a cycle. Not for primo.
Maybe your Dr will allow you to inject yourself. Mine does.
Or move to the dark side and do your own. Add HGH to it too.
augor
New member
I think its gonna be tough just to get him to prescribe 200 every 2 weeks, but if he does, then I plan to convince him to let me self inject, then I'll change it myself to 100 a week.
My plan was after dosgae and levels are stabilized I was add to it.
My big concern now, after doing so much reading is this...
I just went in, he showed me the results, and offered the possible treatment. It was me that insisted on shots.
But he didn't even do any further tests to find out these few things...
1. Why did this happen
2. Am I secondary or primary and why.
3.Check to see my prostate is healthy before beginning TRT
Another question...
Everything I read says free test is the important one.
For my test it was total test 7.0 with a range of 8.0-12.8
Free test was 25.8 with range of 25-60 I believe
Sorry I can't remember what they measure in, I'm in canada so it would be a metric number.
So my total test is well below the range, while free is hanging at the bottom of there so called "normal" ranges.
My plan was after dosgae and levels are stabilized I was add to it.
My big concern now, after doing so much reading is this...
I just went in, he showed me the results, and offered the possible treatment. It was me that insisted on shots.
But he didn't even do any further tests to find out these few things...
1. Why did this happen
2. Am I secondary or primary and why.
3.Check to see my prostate is healthy before beginning TRT
Another question...
Everything I read says free test is the important one.
For my test it was total test 7.0 with a range of 8.0-12.8
Free test was 25.8 with range of 25-60 I believe
Sorry I can't remember what they measure in, I'm in canada so it would be a metric number.
So my total test is well below the range, while free is hanging at the bottom of there so called "normal" ranges.
XMAN.
New member
talk to him about these issues and let him check ur psa level, if this doctor continues to ignore the standard protocols for trt leave him and start searching for another.
augor
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I will press him to check that.
Changing doctors here isn't the same as in US , the best I can do is have him refer me to an endo, and even at that I'm limited to a few
Canadas health care has some plus's but when it comes to this type of thing it sucks.
Hard to get a family doctor
Changing doctors here isn't the same as in US , the best I can do is have him refer me to an endo, and even at that I'm limited to a few
Canadas health care has some plus's but when it comes to this type of thing it sucks.
Hard to get a family doctor
XMAN.
New member
ok u keep insisting on the things we talk about, dosing protocols and regular tests, but try to let him refer u to an endo anyway, remember this is for life, u want a specialist to monitor u all that time.
augor
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I read somewhere that TRT can take awhile (even if the dosage is proper)
It said if your levels are low and have been for awhile it takes time for your body to sense the test and work with it.
So....Is it safe to say "it'll get worse before it gets better" ?
For me this is day 7 since my first shot, and honestly I feel worse
I've had 1 day that I've felt like I could have a decent workout, and I kinda did.
But the next few days after I felt sore and weak more then I ever did when I first started exercising (wich was only 2 yrs ago)
It said if your levels are low and have been for awhile it takes time for your body to sense the test and work with it.
So....Is it safe to say "it'll get worse before it gets better" ?
For me this is day 7 since my first shot, and honestly I feel worse
I've had 1 day that I've felt like I could have a decent workout, and I kinda did.
But the next few days after I felt sore and weak more then I ever did when I first started exercising (wich was only 2 yrs ago)
XMAN.
New member
actually it's a mental thing , ur just eager to feel some results and impatience specially after long time suffering can worsen things but remember ur building up slowly so in time u r having more test day by day of course with proper dosing and frequency,
but in ur case with the distant shots ur going in a roller coaster so ur gonna feel something after injection but 3-4 days later u will start to feel the drop specially with a low initial dose, aim at least for a 100mg weekly (better divided to two 50mg/week) and after about 6 weeks ur goin to love it.
P.S: if ur doc accept the give u 200mg every 2 weeks , try to take it home and pin urself so u can divide it into multiple shots, and if i were u i would add an additional 50mg per week even if i had to buy it from black market, 150mg/week is better considering ur low natural test in the beginning , after all 100mg/week is the lowest dose to start with but most ppl eventually increase it to 150 or even 200mg/week later on (always keep an AI on hand in case estro. build up)
