source got busted

[alexmichael]

http://www2.mysanantonio.com/multim...e=nod&ids=33097&play=1&format=WMV&showpoll=No

I dont know if I'm allowed to (or should) post what he goes by on the boards. I will wait and get some feedback from the mods first.

 

[chefbone]

Did he say AAS cause brain damage? I hope he remembers saying that when he goes home tonight and pours a single malt scotch.

 

[Slyder190]

No plates on his car? Dumb fuck.

 

[Wrongun]

No plates on his car? Dumb fuck.

Agreed i have little sympathy for him

Wrongun!

 

[mhb3939]

Brain damage????
Yeah he had brain damage, for driving his car around with 3k/laptop/AAS....

That is a clear case of brain damage.... And to be on probation too for a controled substance WTF....

He should have just turned him self in.......lol

 

[ALIN]

sorry to hear. whats even worse is the uneducated lies about steroids causing brain damage..etc...

 

[nishnish]

stupid cunt

 

[2ez]

Que Cono Puta Pendejo ! ! ! !


2ez (aka Flako from from around de block)

 

[sparetire]

what a moron...the cop who claimed brain damage and the guy who got busted!

 

[marshallmadman]

That oughta scare all these kids out there wanting to try steroids...(tell 'em it causes brain damage)

 

[DannoMight]

all the above parties have brain damage.... naaa there is no excuse for being a dumbfuck not even the brain damage lie. you can't really blame the cop for what he said due to the fact that most pigs are lying sacks of shit anyways.

 

[bigtravis]

as i've stated a half dozen times. this is the no. 1 way you'll get busted with gear. if you are a stupid cockbreath that likes your gear so much that you have to drive around with it, then you'll soon get what you want . let that report be a lesson. i'm waiting for the news report on the next stupid fucker that got caught doing business in their gym.
IMO, he got what he's always wanted. to be known as a bigtime steroid dealer. now he can tell that to bubba while he's fuckin him up the ass. hahaha

 

[animal56]

I hope it's not one of our guys if you find out let us know I would hate for any of us to get cought up in a trap THANKS FOR THE INFO

 

[benevolent anarchist]

"I understand that they cause liver damage, brain damage…" Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) a real mental gymnast, wasn’t he? Would somebody please mail that dope a copy of Rick Collins’ Legal Muscle… no wait, scratch that. Anyone that believes steroids cause brain damage has the intelligence of an adult squirrel.

 

[javolic]

yes

 

[salmyson]

I received a message from THE source that got busted. He received my money today. The original source was so picky about sending the money and he lets some dumb fucks work for him that is driving with no plates and has cash and gear in his car. This had to be a $500,000 dollar operation. I got fucked again. I just can't seem to find a reliable source.

 

[Stainless_Steel]

Thar AssClown deserved that shit! I just hope that this doesn't get any good bros on here in trouble.

 

[used2juice]

I received a message from THE source that got busted. He received my money today. The original source was so picky about sending the money and he lets some dumb fucks work for him that is driving with no plates and has cash and gear in his car. This had to be a $500,000 dollar operation. I got fucked again. I just can't seem to find a reliable source.

Um yeah, I am sure it's someone who is "just working for him."

Come on man, he had a laptop in his car, plenty of cash, and WU receipts to china as well. You are kidding yourself if you think that the man who got arrested isn't THE MAN HIMSELF.

BTW, when he got on the internet and posted about the situation, he referred to the laptop that was siezed as "my laptop." So I don't see why he would let some random errand worker of his carry around his personal laptop.

The fact is he got busted, he is under investigation, and anyone who goes near him is as stupid as the source is.

 

[bluehen]

That oughta scare all these kids out there wanting to try steroids...(tell 'em it causes brain damage)

Yeah the media sould be banned from mentioning anything about steroids. I guess that anchor has brain cancer from too much alcohol saying shit like that.

 

[salmyson]

I agree with you used2juice, but why wouldn't the police verify this. I don't know if you had any dealings with this source, but he was very picky on how to do everything exactly the way he wanted it done.

 

[used2juice]

I agree with you used2juice, but why wouldn't the police verify this. I don't know if you had any dealings with this source, but he was very picky on how to do everything exactly the way he wanted it done.

What wouldn't the police verify? I don't honestly think they know who he is to this community yet. I think the cop just nabbed him for expired plates or whatever and then asked to search his vehicle (for reasons JUST like this one). The man himself said that "this guy" was driving around in a nice car, had a $15k watch on his wrist, a laptop, a pile of cash, and reciepts from china on him...doesn't take a genius to put that together. I somehow doubt he pays guys 6 figures to pick up some WU's and drop off some packs.

And I don't quite understand why you mentioned he was picky on how to do things?

 

[bluehen]

I bet the only reason it was a "small amount of steriods" was because the rest fell into the cops pockets.

 

[NYBodyguard]

so who got nabbed can someone PM me please

 

[BigCracker]

The fact is he got busted, he is under investigation, and anyone who goes near him is as stupid as the source is.

Anyone who has dealt with this guy in the past 6 months has reason to worry. Anyone that deals with him from now on is probably getting set up.

Let me tell you a little story. God Knows I have a million. Anyway, this big 6 ft 6 275# football player dude at my gym was relatively new to the roid scene. He just loved to talk about it with the obvious roidheads without any regard for who might be listening. He was always asking questions about what's good for what, etc In addition he was on an eternal quest for new sources(this was back before any moron could find juice online). I was the head trainer at the gym(that was well known for the owner being busted for juice a few yrs earlier) and he'd approach me while I was training some fat chick and ask "Is $10/ for rediject Sostenons a good price?" I took him aside and was like dude, you need to fucking chill on the roid chat-you're just begging to get busted. He got all offended and called me paranoid, said I'm over reacting, etc. Anyway, a few weeks later I quit training people and opened another biz. Out of the blue I get a call from an old source, he says he's in need of quick cash and offered me Russian Sus amps for $4 a piece. He said he needed to hook up asap cuz he owed someone money. It sounded too good to be true, so I declined. About 6 months later I see f-ball player dude at the grocery store-looking gaunt and about 40 lbs lighter. He said about 6 months ago our old gym's source(the same guy that called me offering the deal too good to be true) called him up offering him a deal similar to what I was offered. He met him in a grocery store parking lot, got in the sources car, and did the deal. The source was even kind enough to give him a red plastic bag to put his gear in to be "discreet". F-ball player walks across the parking lot to his car and drives away-get's pulled over by the cops a block away and gets busted. It turns out our source got popped 3 days earlier and the cops gave him 72 hrs to set up as many peeps as possible to avoid jail time. The cops even videotaped/recorded every transaction from a nearby van. The red bag was plainly visible in the video as proof of the transaction(try beating that one in court-it aint happenin'). About 14 guys were nailed this way and the source was relocated under the witness protection program to a new state under a new identity. Anyway, f-ball player dude apologized to me and said that he wished he had listened to my cationary words. He was on probation and being drug tested weekly-and very depressed. It's a good thing my narc-dar was working the day the source called me or I could've gone down just like the rest. Be careful bros-ya never know when big brother is watching.

 

[LT3]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to BigCracker again.

This bros stories are the best.

 

[jlh98765]

who got nabbed damnit? please email me at: [email protected]

 

[BigCracker]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to BigCracker again.

This bros stories are the best.

Thanks bro. Too bad there isn't any renegade bodybuilding magazines these days (like the old skool Muscle Media 2000) or I'd submit my resume' for an editorial position. Every month my column would be like eavesdropping on a conversation between Dan Duchaine, Johnny Cochran, and some crooked DEA Agent. lol I could sure piss off LE by sharing my experiences and educating the BB community in how those seedy cop bastards work. The AS user community is full of guys that lack the knowledge to minimize their risks of getting popped. Even less know how to handle themselves when they do get popped-costing them tons of extra $$$ and emotional grief. Poor bastards.

 

[bluehen]

Thanks bro. Too bad there isn't any renegade bodybuilding magazines these days (like the old skool Muscle Media 2000) or I'd submit my resume' for an editorial position. Every month my column would be like eavesdropping on a conversation between Dan Duchaine, Johnny Cochran, and some crooked DEA Agent. lol I could sure piss off LE by sharing my experiences and educating the BB community in how those seedy cop bastards work. The AS user community is full of guys that lack the knowledge to minimize their risks of getting popped. Even less know how to handle themselves when they do get popped-costing them tons of extra $$$ and emotional grief. Poor bastards.

Call up Muscular Development, that's as close ase your getting these days.

 

[salmyson]

What wouldn't the police verify? I don't honestly think they know who he is to this community yet. I think the cop just nabbed him for expired plates or whatever and then asked to search his vehicle (for reasons JUST like this one). The man himself said that "this guy" was driving around in a nice car, had a $15k watch on his wrist, a laptop, a pile of cash, and reciepts from china on him...doesn't take a genius to put that together. I somehow doubt he pays guys 6 figures to pick up some WU's and drop off some packs.

And I don't quite understand why you mentioned he was picky on how to do things?

Because if you were to use his services, he was anal. Everything had to be perfect. I have an MBA from Brown University and what I meant by a $500,000 dollar operation, that meant that's an approximation of how much PROFIT HE WAS MAKING !! Do I have to write a full post to explain what was going on with his business?, or is this okay?

 

[LT3]

Thanks bro. Too bad there isn't any renegade bodybuilding magazines these days (like the old skool Muscle Media 2000) or I'd submit my resume' for an editorial position. Every month my column would be like eavesdropping on a conversation between Dan Duchaine, Johnny Cochran, and some crooked DEA Agent. lol I could sure piss off LE by sharing my experiences and educating the BB community in how those seedy cop bastards work. The AS user community is full of guys that lack the knowledge to minimize their risks of getting popped. Even less know how to handle themselves when they do get popped-costing them tons of extra $$$ and emotional grief. Poor bastards.

LOL at

eavesdropping on a conversation between Dan Duchaine, Johnny Cochran, and some crooked DEA Agent

Honestly though bro, if that was to happen i would buy these magazines. the shit they write nowdays is ridiculous, it's like a miniture version of a billboard, just advertisements and no info.

 

[used2juice]

Because if you were to use his services, he was anal. Everything had to be perfect. I have an MBA from Brown University and what I meant by a $500,000 dollar operation, that meant that's an approximation of how much PROFIT HE WAS MAKING !! Do I have to write a full post to explain what was going on with his business?, or is this okay?

You have a MBA from Brown and you speak like this? Nevermind, I won't start...

Why does it matter how much profit he was making? He is/was selling drugs, in that case (and many others) money does NOT correlate to intelligence. So why would you even bring up how much money YOU THINK he was making?

Next, what does anal have to do with being intelligent? Obviously he wasn't the smartest cat on the block to drive around with scheduled drugs in his car, a wad of cash, laptop, and receipts from a drug friendly country like china.

Do I need to write a full post on how stupid he is or is this okay?

Lastly, can you PLEASE explain what it is you think the police would verify??? I still can't figure that out.

 

[salmyson]

You have a MBA from Brown and you speak like this? Nevermind, I won't start...

Why does it matter how much profit he was making? He is/was selling drugs, in that case (and many others) money does NOT correlate to intelligence. So why would you even bring up how much money YOU THINK he was making?

Next, what does anal have to do with being intelligent? Obviously he wasn't the smartest cat on the block to drive around with scheduled drugs in his car, a wad of cash, laptop, and receipts from a drug friendly country like china.

Do I need to write a full post on how stupid he is or is this okay?

Lastly, can you PLEASE explain what it is you think the police would verify??? I still can't figure that out.

No, I didn't get a chance to interview the police. MONEY DOESN'T CORRELATE TO INTELLIGENCE, BOY YOU MUST OF WENT TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE 101. This is very simple to research and I will not do that for you. Just look on the Internet and look at the average starting salaries for MBA's from Ivy League Schools, and your average University and there you will find your answer. I have never made less than $100,000 since I was 26 years old. There is a DIRECT CORRELATION to making money and intelligence. I will not stoop to your uneducated ass and respond to anymore of your posts

 

[salmyson]

You have no argument from me used2juice. The guy was a dumb ass son of a bitch.

 

[zips92]

Bro if that's you in the avatar, hope that wasn't your source. Keep training hard.

If it was your source, good luck choosing better next time because he was a "moron", an "AssClown" and a "stupid cunt".

 

[salmyson]

I don't have an Avatar, but once everyone knows who got busted, they will be shocked. And, believe me, the guy was well respected and "not a moron or assclown or stupid cunt" And for zips92, when you find out who the source is you will be eating your words.

 

[zips92]

You have no argument from me used2juice. The guy was a dumb ass son of a bitch.

Somehow something got lost in translation....... he wasn't a "moron", an "AssClown" or a "stupid cunt", but he was a dumb ass son of a bitch.

When everything shakes out as you say, perhaps you are correct, and perhaps you know more than the rest of us. I hope this doesn't pinch any good bros on here, but he wasn't my source, and for all of the aforemetioned reasons in many of the posts, how this dude got busted was stupid.

If I have misinterpreted something, then I like to diet on crow when cycling.

 

[wellbilt]

do we know who this source is and can it be posted up or emailed to me
i think people should know if they need to worry

 

[BigCracker]

Call up Muscular Development, that's as close ase your getting these days.

Hmmmm... I think I'll pass. After Musclemag's Lou Zwicke phone stalked me for 2 yrs straight while repeatedly requesting me to describe my hamstring /glute tie in, I think I'll pass. Back then he led me to believe I was gonna be pro. Now I realize I was just a free gay homosexual XXX 900 # substitute. I feel so used.

 

[used2juice]

do we know who this source is and can it be posted up or emailed to me
i think people should know if they need to worry

That's the whole problem, people DO need to worry because this source is out on bail and is planning on returning to sourcing So he is telling people that everything is fine and it was just one of the guys that works for him, etc. Even thought the news report interviewed the sheriff and he said this is the start of an investigation, that he believes this man was selling steroids on the internet and receipts can confirm that, etc! But moderators all over the place are deleting posts because they don't want to "help LE make a case." But what they don't seem to realize is that they are only helping [this guy] gather up more names and addresses and when LE finally gets his laptop for good, they will have that many more names to play with.

Samylson, I don't want to get into a pissing match, but my post CLEARLY qualified what I said, please reread before you make any further misinformed posts. "He is/was selling drugs, IN THAT CASE (and many others) money does NOT correlate to intelligence." Being a drug dealer does not really require a whole lot of intelligence, as exemplified by this guy and PE, etc. I did not in any way say that income isn't at all correlated to intelligence, I simply stated in this profession it is not. However, you said you have a MBA and you still have issues with the english language AND you cannot seem to read critically, so what does that say? Oh yeah, I also don't have a degree (15 units short), but I have 2 businesses I started all by myself, each of which nets me well over 6 figures annually...so I have been making well over $100K since I was 24.

 

[BigCracker]

You have a MBA from Brown and you speak like this? Nevermind, I won't start...

Why does it matter how much profit he was making? He is/was selling drugs, in that case (and many others) money does NOT correlate to intelligence. So why would you even bring up how much money YOU THINK he was making?

Next, what does anal have to do with being intelligent? Obviously he wasn't the smartest cat on the block to drive around with scheduled drugs in his car, a wad of cash, laptop, and receipts from a drug friendly country like china.

Do I need to write a full post on how stupid he is or is this okay?

Lastly, can you PLEASE explain what it is you think the police would verify??? I still can't figure that out.

LOL. Some of the biggest idiots I know are college grads that sre standing in the unemployment lines as I type. I went to community college for 1.5 semesters and all I learned was how to make a low cost beer bong from parts bought at Ace hardware, how and where to score better quality weed, and how to talk chicks I fucked into getting an abortion-all while improving my hacky sack skills. With my 12th grade education I've been more successful than 99% of my high school classmates that finsished grad school. Not onlydo I look 10 yrs younger than them, I don't have a monthly student loan payment that's similar in amount to a house mortgage either. Even though I'm the 1st generation to live outside a trailer park in my family, I've never even worked more than 25hrs (or so) a week in my adult life either, and I'll proudly compare investment portfolios with any degreed professional in my age group.

Having a degree means you were sucked into a pseudo-ideal that has no 100% guarantee of success. To me going to college is like working a job where you may, or may not, even get a paycheck at the end of the week. To correlate a college degree with intelligence is absolutely ludicrous. Driving a car w/ exp. tags w/ contraband in your possession is even moreso, and you don't need to be a handyman to figure that out. Sorry to flame, but the whole college=intelligence bullshit thing some people regularly buy into really chaps my ass.

 

[BigCracker]

Oh yeah, I also don't have a degree (15 units short), but I have 2 businesses I started all by myself, each of which nets me well over 6 figures annually...so I have been making well over $100K since I was 24.

And you'll never get fired for not sleeping w/ the boss and/or you'll never be outsourced by some shmo w/ a thick accent from a 3rd world country either!!! That's something you can't beat with a stick. Just think, 15 more units and you'll have a nice plaque to put on your wall(or collect dust in the closet?) too!!! lol Congrats bro. Tell these guys just how much of your almost-college education is used in your day to day life.

As a personal trainer I had exercise physiologists pay may to show them how to work out and Dr's that needed 411 from me on how to take gear. All of that college and they still needed to consult some non-college educated peasant like myself for practical applications of their chosen game? Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm...

 

[AAP]

So am I getting a PM anytime soon with this guys name?

 

[muscleup]

AAP Pm brotha

 

[buffalo]

I don't have an Avatar, but once everyone knows who got busted, they will be shocked. And, believe me, the guy was well respected and "not a moron or assclown or stupid cunt" And for zips92, when you find out who the source is you will be eating your words.

You are very right.

 

[used2juice]

You are very right.

I will for sure say he is/was well respected in our community. But did you watch that news report? He has had priors for burglary and possession. I'm not going to knock the poss charge for obvious reasons. But I think people who burglarize houses, vehicles, etc are lowlifes. Kind of goes to show that you never really know who you are dealing with on the internet do you? In any case though, I do wish him the best and I hope he takes this time to get things in order and get away from this scene. The notion that he will return to sourcing is nothing short of deplorable and will show what kind of person he REALLY is, so I guess we will see.

 

[salmyson]

LOL. Some of the biggest idiots I know are college grads that sre standing in the unemployment lines as I type. I went to community college for 1.5 semesters and all I learned was how to make a low cost beer bong from parts bought at Ace hardware, how and where to score better quality weed, and how to talk chicks I fucked into getting an abortion-all while improving my hacky sack skills. With my 12th grade education I've been more successful than 99% of my high school classmates that finsished grad school. Not onlydo I look 10 yrs younger than them, I don't have a monthly student loan payment that's similar in amount to a house mortgage either. Even though I'm the 1st generation to live outside a trailer park in my family, I've never even worked more than 25hrs (or so) a week in my adult life either, and I'll proudly compare investment portfolios with any degreed professional in my age group.

Having a degree means you were sucked into a pseudo-ideal that has no 100% guarantee of success. To me going to college is like working a job where you may, or may not, even get a paycheck at the end of the week. To correlate a college degree with intelligence is absolutely ludicrous. Driving a car w/ exp. tags w/ contraband in your possession is even moreso, and you don't need to be a handyman to figure that out. Sorry to flame, but the whole college=intelligence bullshit thing some people regularly buy into really chaps my ass.

Your reply was so idiotic and full of useless information, you made no sense, therefore you deserve no response. I'll retire at 50 with around 25 million, is your porfolio that good? And my families porfolio will be well over 100 million. Take that to the bank you idiot.

 

[used2juice]

Your reply was so idiotic and full of useless information, you made no sense, therfore you deserve no response. I'll retire at 50 with around 25 million, is your porfolio that good. and my families porfolio will be well over 100 million. Take that to the bank you idiot.

This is getting way off topic, but you did bring up a good point. Money begets money. Very few people start in a poor family and end up millionaires. Ivy league educations aren't cheap, parents usually have money to be able to send their kids to those schools. And I think it's tried and true to say "It's not WHAT you know, it's WHO you know."

So the circle goes...family has money ---> gives kid a top notch education ---> kid meets more wealthy children at school ----> parents or friends parents use their connections to give kid job after graduation

FYI, my mother is a stay at home mom and my dad has never made more than $60K a year...and we all live in california, so $60K doesn't buy you much. So I am self made, and I think that is more bragable than saying that you have family who has a lot of cash.

 

[gotmilk]

That's the whole problem, people DO need to worry because this source is out on bail and is planning on returning to sourcing

His sourcing is pretty much over. I hope people understand that. I wouldn't even email him or answer any of his emails.

 

[Prizz]

I'm not really looking to get involved in this pissing match.... However, to get on here and post that you went to a good college, and make money means what? Then youre gonna say that you'll retire with 25million? What does that have to do with a source getting busted? Why are you giving us your resume? Are we supposed to be impressed? Sorry man, but I think your last few posts dont' make you look too good....

rizz

 

[zips92]

gotmilk and prizz are right, and we should focus on the steak and not the peas.....

I have to believe most folks are responsding to a thread topic started by a concerned bro without knowledge of the person's identity whether it was THE SOURCE or an employee of the source. We are commenting on the facts of the thread topic, as best that can be ascertained.

salmyson, you seem to be pissed and started to vent because you lost a source. I WILL NOT UNDERSTATE the significance or importance of this, but losing a source and getting busted by the stupid actions of your source (or employee) that you have no control over are two different things. If you have as much money as you have gone out of the way to say you do, then why don't you share some of it with this person you respect so very much, to help him/her get back on their feet, or maybe legal fees. So as not to be hyppocritical, if this person was a bro's father, mother or little brother, yeah we probably wouldn't have said the things we did, but the action was stupid, regardless of where they went to college or high school.

There is a very recent thread topic: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=430962, that talks about what a great, respectable and helpful forum this is. I am concerned about a lot of good bros that are interested in building a healthy, strong body and helping others with similar interests. IF there is something that can be shared and learned on here that can hellp some good folks out, that's what we should focus on.

 

[used2juice]

His sourcing is pretty much over. I hope people understand that. I wouldn't even email him or answer any of his emails.

I hope HE understands that. I've gotten PMs from a few guys saying that they got responses from him saying that there is no problem and things will go on per usual.

And you or I wouldn't return emails because we know who he is. But I'm quite sure there are a lot of other guys who don't. Hell, even AAP didn't know until a while ago. Mods all over are trying to cover this up for his safety. But what about EVERYONE ELSE'S safety!?

 

[zips92]

I hope HE understands that. I've gotten PMs from a few guys saying that they got responses from him saying that there is no problem and things will go on per usual.

And you or I wouldn't return emails because we know who he is. But I'm quite sure there are a lot of other guys who don't. Hell, even AAP didn't know until a while ago. Mods all over are trying to cover this up for his safety. But what about EVERYONE ELSE'S safety!?

Perfectly said!

 

[salmyson]

Look at buffalo's post. And I could care less what any single one of you think. The source was not a stupid ass, the runner was. I will not be responding to your jealous remarks, so FU

 

[gotmilk]

Mods all over are trying to cover this up for his safety. But what about EVERYONE ELSE'S safety!?

His safety ensures others safety. If he's tight about it, there's nothing to worry about. If he pulls a rat job, shit will hit the fan. In the meantime, it's not worth corresponding with him.

 

[used2juice]

Look at buffalo's post. And I could care less what any single one of you think. The souce was not a stupid ass, the runner was. I will not be responding to your jealous remarks, so FUCK YOU

I'm not jealous, I'm sure I make near as much money--if not more--than you.

Now to the pressing matter...

Why would a RUNNER have a nice car (a nice car to me means $50K or more), a $15,000-$25,000 watch, $3K in cash, a bunch of receipts to china, tracking numbers, and the REAL SOURCE'S personal laptop?

Granted I don't know exactly how much that guy was making, but I just truly doubt he pays guys 6 figures to drop off packs. And again, why would this RUNNER have the man's laptop with secret info on it???

No matter how you slice it, P**-M** is either an idiot for getting caught with all that stuff, an idiot for trusting a moron with a criminal record on probation to help in his biz, or a complete fool for thinking we would believe that everything is fine. Pick your poison bro, he fucked up. I just hope he does the honorable things and leaves the game instead of trying to pull a few more bros into HIS problems.

 

[used2juice]

His safety ensures others safety. If he's tight about it, there's nothing to worry about. If he pulls a rat job, shit will hit the fan. In the meantime, it's not worth corresponding with him.

Oh I understand that. My qualm comes with what some of his clients are saying to me about him saying that all is okay and business is per usual. I understand that keeping him safe will help keep everyone okay. But if he is deliberately putting himself into the same business...well then he is just asking to get fucked. And in that case, I think people should be aware of who to stay away from.

That was my point. I don't necessarily disagree with his threads being pulled, I disagree with him still sourcing and people trying to keep it a secret.

 

[salmyson]

Hey zips92, that's what's good about having money. He was one of my many sources, so I am not pissed about that, the fact that he was an honest person and his product was always top qaulity gear and he had hard to find products.

 

[zips92]

Hey zips92, that's what's good about having money. He was one of my many sources, so I am not pissed about that, the fact that he was an honest person and his product was always top qaulity gear and he had hard to find products.

Well said.......and I feel for any good bro that loses a good reliable source.

If the guy that got busted was a runner (I still don't know, so that tells you what my opinion is worth), then it sounds like the source made a bad error in judgement in trusting/hiring the runner.

I hope you use your money for good things. Chill out bro, this IS an anabolics forum, and we're all in this together. Hope things work out!

 

[BigCracker]

I will for sure say he is/was well respected in our community. But did you watch that news report? He has had priors for burglary and possession. I'm not going to knock the poss charge for obvious reasons. But I think people who burglarize houses, vehicles, etc are lowlifes. Kind of goes to show that you never really know who you are dealing with on the internet do you? In any case though, I do wish him the best and I hope he takes this time to get things in order and get away from this scene. The notion that he will return to sourcing is nothing short of deplorable and will show what kind of person he REALLY is, so I guess we will see.

My guess is this guy did some time at a very young age-where at a very impressionable age he was further schooled in criminal elements by other criminals he was surrounded by. I can't imagine how I would've turned out if the system assraped me in this scenario. I know a guy in his early 30's that did 11 yrs-he still acts 21 maturity-wise and will still seize any crime of opportunity that presents itself-ex-if it's late and he's driving down your street and sees your garage door open, kiss your tools or anything else that's of pawnworthy/untraceable value goodbye. He's basically a good hearted guy that will always exhibit sociopathic tendencies. I think subconciuosly as a convicted felon he feels unfit for society and wants to go back to jail. For some people, once their path in life is set, there's no turning back. This guy probably really liked the feeling of providing his friends with the forbidden fruit. I'm guessing it gave him a feeling of acceptance? I doubt he did it for the cash exclusively. As far as I know, slinging just about any other illegal/scheduled drug out there (that carries similar penalties for possession/sale) would be more profitable.

 

[salmyson]

Thanks for understanding zip92. It is a bad day when a good guy goes down. If the source knew he was running with no license plates, he would of went crazy and the runner would of been fired. I'll be okay, I'm just a little upset. Thank you for the thought

 

[salmyson]

Somehow something got lost in translation....... he wasn't a "moron", an "AssClown" or a "stupid cunt", but he was a dumb ass son of a bitch.

When everything shakes out as you say, perhaps you are correct, and perhaps you know more than the rest of us. I hope this doesn't pinch any good bros on here, but he wasn't my source, and for all of the aforemetioned reasons in many of the posts, how this dude got busted was stupid.

If I have misinterpreted something, then I like to diet on crow when cycling.

What I meant was the guy running with the product was a dumb ass.

 

[Guvna]

someone please hit me with this guys name....

thanks

 

[nuthnbutfords]

WOW...this is thread is outta control. From portfolios to runner's w/no plates, we have nailed two ends of the spectrum. Here is my comments on the matter, and I think that some people might have overlooked some things.

1. The source is VERY INTELLIGENT and has helped many bros out there.

2. The runner is the one w/the criminal past, not the source, hence-the runner is and was a thug-breaking the law is what he fucking does.

3. Have any of your guys thought that..what the police release as a press statement might not ALL ACTUALLY BE FUCKING TRUE????? DOES EVERYTHING THE MEDIA TELLS YOU IS TRUE????? They probably have been watching the whole operation for months on end. The fucking cops don't need a expired plate/no plates to pull someone over. If the cops/FBI know there is a man...w/a controlled substances in the car..and a wad of cash, they will nail the fucker when the time is right-whether he has fucking plates or not.

4. If you think they just "came across this during a routine stop", then your an idiot.

5. All the bull shit aside, we lost a great guy out there. He wasn't out to fuck people over. He..as all of us..have no problem w/using AAS..and he was doing alot of people a great service on what he offered. He dedicated his fucking life to helping other people out, spent his whole day answering questions etc...

6. Then again- He was a drug dealer- and had it com'n eventually. He def. went out on top!!!

 

[nuthnbutfords]

Oh...and I don't have a college degree.

 

[used2juice]

2. The runner is the one w/the criminal past, not the source, hence-the runner is and was a thug-breaking the law is what he fucking does.

I still do not believe this was a runner. "the runner" would have to be making at least $100K to be driving around in the nice car with the rolex. Not only that, but why would "the runner" have the source's laptop?

3. Have any of your guys thought that..what the police release as a press statement might not ALL ACTUALLY BE FUCKING TRUE????? DOES EVERYTHING THE MEDIA TELLS YOU IS TRUE????? They probably have been watching the whole operation for months on end. The fucking cops don't need a expired plate/no plates to pull someone over. If the cops/FBI know there is a man...w/a controlled substances in the car..and a wad of cash, they will nail the fucker when the time is right-whether he has fucking plates or not.

I will grant you that not everything that's in the media is true. But when the sheriff says that he believes this guy was selling steroids on the internet and this is the start of an investigation...well there is no arguing with that bro, this source is now under investigation for selling anabolic steroids on the internet.

4. If you think they just "came across this during a routine stop", then your an idiot.

This you never know about. Cops are taught to ask to search a vehicle if they get any sort of "feeling" about the person. Keep in mind WHOEVER was in that car was doing something BIGTIME and illegal and DID have drugs in his car. He may have very well appeared nervous. It's altogether possible this WAS just a routine traffic stop but the person in the car started acting nervous.

5. All the bull shit aside, we lost a great guy out there. He wasn't out to fuck people over. He..as all of us..have no problem w/using AAS..and he was doing alot of people a great service on what he offered. He dedicated his fucking life to helping other people out, spent his whole day answering questions etc...

I agree, he was a real asset to this community. I just hope he actually understands that it's over, because I am hearing that he is/will continue to take orders.

 

[salmyson]

I feel sorry for you, whatever your name is, it's to bad you weren't able to better to educate yourself in college, because I think we should tell all the youth of America not to finish High School and better themselves through a college Education. Because, believe or not a young person growing up without an education has it five times as hard to be financially successsful in life. But I think most of the educators and the leaders in Industry might disagree with me. You cannot get in the door with atleast a College Degree, but you, who knows it all, probably doesn't agree. And I doubt most of the Parents would agree with you also. Why don't you ask your average American parent if an education is important. I think you will find the correct answer then. And excuse me, but I think your a fucking idiot to think that an education is not important, it shows through your post. But your right, he was a fucking drug dealer and you have to be an asshole if you think the cops didn't pull him over for having no plates. My brother is a cop and he told me that would automatically be considered a suspicious vehicle and demand a routine traffic stop. I think I'm done kicking your ass, you fucking moron

 

[salmyson]

Your reply was so idiotic and full of useless information, you made no sense, therefore you deserve no response. I'll retire at 50 with around 25 million, is your porfolio that good? And my families porfolio will be well over 100 million. Take that to the bank you idiot.

I'm sorry, I also own my home free and clear. It's only worth 750,000, but in 5 years I'll be able to sell it for 1.25 million. I'm sorry, that means that I have the deed to the home, with NO LIENS
What do you think about an education now, you dumb fuck !!

 

[salmyson]

Read my post to buffalo. It shows that I backed the source up pretty good, when everyone was attacking him. I know the source personally and he is a good dude and I agree what you say about him.

 

[used2juice]

If everyone wants to start a "how much money I make" thread, do it in a general discussion forum. This post is really pretty important and it's getting really off topic.

I don't know this source personally, but let's get this one fact straight for everyone...

THIS SOURCE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR SELLING ANABOLIC STEROIDS ON THE INTERNET.

Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? If not, then make sure everyone who has dealt with a person in texas PM me or someone else to make sure you aren't exchanging emails with a busted source.

 

[flyingjer]

somebody PM this sources name

 

[raze]

yeah he was stupid, the cops (i know i am making a general statement) are fucken ridiculous. whats worse selling some roids that everyone who buys knows the full deal and accepts the risks associated, or these fuckers selling whey protein and creatine making rediculous claims and RIPPING everyone off. which in my opinion has a negative effect on the whole "obesity crisis". People goto gym expecting results, dont get the results promised by the supplement company and decide to quit because they either get discouraged or go its too hard. If you guys cbf read this, this is wade mcnutts opinion on whey protein. make your own opinion!

http://www.freakygrowth.com/theproteinscandal.html

ahhh that feels better

 

[rangermjg]

rich guys-why dont you send some of your cash down this way? seriously, i hope you do good deeds w/all that disposable income... i am sure we all know a cop or 2 who play our game, so dont sterotype. cops rarely find a needle in a haystack. i am sure he was being scouted for some time. sucks some of you guys lost a good source. hope no one else gets in trouble.

 

[salmyson]

Thanks for your thoughts Inspector Gadget, but I know the source personally and you shouldn't stereotype cops either. And, also do not sit on your high horse and assume things. I know the people involved, so I would keep your busy body nose out of it, unless you have some useful knowledge of what happened, because I do.

 

[needtogetaas]

I know the name of the source that got busted.he was a big time source on another bourd that I post on from time to time.anny one that has ever orderd from him should get rid of all there shit and anny thinh that may incrimanate them.

 

[used2juice]

Thanks for your thoughts Inspector Gadget, but I know the source personally and you shouldn't stereotype cops either. And, also do not sit on your high horse and assume things. I know the people involved, so I would keep your busy body nose out of it, unless you have some useful knowledge of what happened, because I do.

I don't get it, if you know this source personally and have all this useful info, why did you even come on this thread to conjecture about anything concerning this situation?

And I know since you have your MBA and all this money that you MUST be an intelligent person, so I am quite sure that you have already thought that it's not just the police and media that can lie, it's also the source who got busted but doesn't wanna lose his "$500k per year operation" that can lie. So what little p-m has likely told you, may very well be a lie to try and continue his cash flow.

 

[asianlover]

I know the name of the source that got busted.he was a big time source on another bourd that I post on from time to time.anny one that has ever orderd from him should get rid of all there shit and anny thinh that may incrimanate them.

good idea bro. if the cops got hold of records with orders and personal info that could be bad. if any one is worried and wants to know who it is you can pm me and ill let you know but im not posting his name on here.

 

[needtogetaas]

good idea bro. if the cops got hold of records with orders and personal info that could be bad. if any one is worried and wants to know who it is you can pm me and ill let you know but im not posting his name on here.

me nether but people can feal free to pm me or send me a email at [email protected] if they want info.

 

[rangermjg]

Thanks for your thoughts Inspector Gadget, but I know the source personally and you shouldn't stereotype cops either. And, also do not sit on your high horse and assume things. I know the people involved, so I would keep your busy body nose out of it, unless you have some useful knowledge of what happened, because I do.

alright sal i appreciate all of your "knowledge of the situation". i wasnt on any high horse that you speak of. i will leave that to the rich and powerful! use some of your wealth and get your boy a good attorney. i am a "highly" trained individual. who has some authority to speak in this type of scenario. you speak as if you were very close w/the source who was squeezed. if this true, good chance you are being scouted...
as always
RANGERS LEAD THE WAY
-Inspector Gadget

 

[Mr. Laredo]

Holy Crap..........i Know This Guy. That Is A Old Mug Shot Of Him Though.

 

[Mr. Laredo]

Did he say AAS cause brain damage? I hope he remembers saying that when he goes home tonight and pours a single malt scotch.

Scotch..Scotch...Scotch............I love Scotch.

 

[Mr. Laredo]

This Guy Was And Is Not A Major Internet Source.

He Was Small Time Local Source Who Supplied Local Body Builders In The San Antonio & Austin Areas

He Is Also A Used Car Dealer In San Antonio. Thats Why He Did Not Have Plates On His Vehicle.

Go Talk To Him Yourself And See...........he Works Out At Gold's Gym On Bandera.

 

[salmyson]

alright sal i appreciate all of your "knowledge of the situation". i wasnt on any high horse that you speak of. i will leave that to the rich and powerful! use some of your wealth and get your boy a good attorney. i am a "highly" trained individual. who has some authority to speak in this type of scenario. you speak as if you were very close w/the source who was squeezed. if this true, good chance you are being scouted...
as always
RANGERS LEAD THE WAY
-Inspector Gadget

Again, thanks for the remarkable information. You amaze me by your wisdom. It's to bad you don't know who I am talking about, and you never will.

 

[used2juice]

This Guy Was And Is Not A Major Internet Source.

He Was Small Time Local Source Who Supplied Local Body Builders In The San Antonio & Austin Areas

He Is Also A Used Car Dealer In San Antonio. Thats Why He Did Not Have Plates On His Vehicle.

Go Talk To Him Yourself And See...........he Works Out At Gold's Gym On Bandera.

That's some good info Laredo. But now I am confused because P-M openly admitted to PECS and then to the board that it was infact HIM that got pulled over. I just went over to OSBB and saw all this. Right after the incident he called PECS and told him to post that he got pulled over with etc etc but that it is okay because no info was taken from his computer. Then he changed his story in another thread saying he didn't even KNOW the guy who got caught up. But then it yet another post, he said that he spoke to his attorney about his case, why would P-M have an attorney AND a case if it wasn't him who got pulled over? And how do you know that this small time source didn't decide to GO BIG in just the last year...if ya catch my drift.

 

[rangermjg]

Again, thanks for the remarkable information. You amaze me by your wisdom. It's to bad you don't know who I am talking about, and you never will.

sally- why is it my bad that i dont know who you are talking about? the last thing i want, is to be associated with someone who got nabbed. your claim to fame is that you deal w/some high, prolific supplier. i think you are posting on this thread not to help everyone, but to "brag" that this is one of your boys.

 

[Indy]

WOW...this is thread is outta control. From portfolios to runner's w/no plates, we have nailed two ends of the spectrum. Here is my comments on the matter, and I think that some people might have overlooked some things.

1. The source is VERY INTELLIGENT and has helped many bros out there.

2. The runner is the one w/the criminal past, not the source, hence-the runner is and was a thug-breaking the law is what he fucking does.

3. Have any of your guys thought that..what the police release as a press statement might not ALL ACTUALLY BE FUCKING TRUE????? DOES EVERYTHING THE MEDIA TELLS YOU IS TRUE????? They probably have been watching the whole operation for months on end. The fucking cops don't need a expired plate/no plates to pull someone over. If the cops/FBI know there is a man...w/a controlled substances in the car..and a wad of cash, they will nail the fucker when the time is right-whether he has fucking plates or not.

4. If you think they just "came across this during a routine stop", then your an idiot.

5. All the bull shit aside, we lost a great guy out there. He wasn't out to fuck people over. He..as all of us..have no problem w/using AAS..and he was doing alot of people a great service on what he offered. He dedicated his fucking life to helping other people out, spent his whole day answering questions etc...

6. Then again- He was a drug dealer- and had it com'n eventually. He def. went out on top!!!

This is the best post yet, well said bro,and if I had the power, I would bestow upon you an honorary college degree, what the hell, here's a BA from Gear University

 

[salmyson]

sally- why is it my bad that i dont know who you are talking about? the last thing i want, is to be associated with someone who got nabbed. your claim to fame is that you deal w/some high, prolific supplier. i think you are posting on this thread not to help everyone, but to "brag" that this is one of your boys.

You are assuming to many things. I know nothing of the situation and I will ignore anymore questions concerning this bust. You are probably right, it is a low profile dealer and he did deserve what he got.

 

[Mr. Laredo]

That's some good info Laredo. But now I am confused because P-M openly admitted to PECS and then to the board that it was infact HIM that got pulled over. I just went over to OSBB and saw all this. Right after the incident he called PECS and told him to post that he got pulled over with etc etc but that it is okay because no info was taken from his computer. Then he changed his story in another thread saying he didn't even KNOW the guy who got caught up. But then it yet another post, he said that he spoke to his attorney about his case, why would P-M have an attorney AND a case if it wasn't him who got pulled over? And how do you know that this small time source didn't decide to GO BIG in just the last year...if ya catch my drift.

MAYBE SOME GUY IS WANTING PEOPLE TO THINK HE IS A SOURCE.
THEN HE TELLS EVERYONE HES ALRIGHT. PEOPLE START ORDERING........PEOPLE GET SCAMMED.

COULD ALSO BE FEDS POSING AS HIM TO GET INFORMATION FROM CERTAIN BOARDS

DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU WERE NOT A CLIENT OF HIS ANYWAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THE AIR AND LET ELITE KNOW HE WAS NOT MAJOR SOURCE AND STOP WORRYING.

IT WAS PROBABLY HIS LAPTOP COMPUTER WITH CAR DEALS ON IT. RIGHT NOW THE MEDIA IS HYPING UP ALL STEROID LINKS.

I'M SURE AT LEAST ONE PERSON IN THE USA GETS BUSTED EVERYDAY WITH JUICE ON THEM. MEDIA HYPE IS ALL THIS IS.

 

[needtogetaas]

holy shit.the aas bourd is a secret flames forem.

 

[used2juice]

MAYBE SOME GUY IS WANTING PEOPLE TO THINK HE IS A SOURCE.
THEN HE TELLS EVERYONE HES ALRIGHT. PEOPLE START ORDERING........PEOPLE GET SCAMMED.

COULD ALSO BE FEDS POSING AS HIM TO GET INFORMATION FROM CERTAIN BOARDS

DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU WERE NOT A CLIENT OF HIS ANYWAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THE AIR AND LET ELITE KNOW HE WAS NOT MAJOR SOURCE AND STOP WORRYING.

IT WAS PROBABLY HIS LAPTOP COMPUTER WITH CAR DEALS ON IT. RIGHT NOW THE MEDIA IS HYPING UP ALL STEROID LINKS.

I'M SURE AT LEAST ONE PERSON IN THE USA GETS BUSTED EVERYDAY WITH JUICE ON THEM. MEDIA HYPE IS ALL THIS IS.

I'm not as much concerned with the media hyping this story as I am with a busted source lying to people to make them feel safe about ordering again. I would personally say this source has a lot more reason to lie than the media. And as far as I am aware from that tv spot, the sheriff wasn't hyping a thing when he said that this is the start of an investigation on a person they believe is selling anabolics on the internet.

Also, why would p-m lie about being the one who got nabbed? I mean, that is what originally started this whole deal. And I may have dealt with p-m in the past so this does concern me.

 

[canasta]

stupid move for the retard plateless fool....oh well, anotherone bytes the dust

 

[Guvna]

From the man himself..this should put all the shit to rest.



Hello Hello! I am here, and I am fine! There has been a recent SMALL problem, I assure my clients that everybody will be taken care of and everything is ok on my end. I called pecs yesterday and asked him to post a message to everyone. There are some facts I want to post up on the open board for all to read. But briefly, I do want to say that there was a "guy" pulled over by a traffic cop for no lights on his plates, he was not on probation if so he would not have made bond, he would be in jail for revocation of probation. They impounded his vehicle and its contents, the vehicle and its contents were given back to him when he was out on bail paying $500 for bond. This includes his laptop which takes a security code to get into, and cyber which takes an additional security code to get into. The amount of steriods found were less than 10cc total, and they were in his gym bag. This case was viewed in the news because an ambitous traffic cop thought he really had more than he did because a pumped up guy with a little chump change on him, nice vehicle and a rolex shined very bright in his little brain, then an ambitous reporter needed a story. By no means am I saying this person was me, that would be foolish, but i will say the story is inflamed because the true facts are just were not newsworthy so a story was made; I am sure evrybody is savvy to how easy that is done. In order to make a case newsworthy they have to add an editorial, and in this case thats all the news was because the man arrested got out of jail very quickly, his property returned very quickly and was at home several hours later, in fact, faster than the news even told the story.

Just so everybody knows, there were no reciepts to steriod transactions but reciepts to tracking info of funds sent to china. As soon as this fella got home he changed the passwords to all the boards, to cyber and to his laptop itself. Rick Collins was detained for consultation which was a very comforting and enlightening conversation to have due to the facts the charges are so small the case will likey be dropped. Also his lap top was not out of his possession long enough to enable any kind of information to be taken off the hard drive. And if the case had any merit at all they would have detained him for futher investigation and he would not have been out on bond so quickly and on the phone with Rick Collins or or any board members as Pecs.

Again, I am just revealing some facts on a case that are likely going to be publically corrected due to the facts being inflammed to make the 5 oclock news. Unfortunatly these corrections are made on 85% of reports but can only be found by looking at archives. In the event this happens I will gladly post the link that corrects the small arrest mentioned above. This must have really pissed off the guy who got pulled over in this news story and I am sure he has alot of explaning to do to family members as well as members of his community.

With all this said, I myself have over 200 emails and a very full plate to take care of. Please do not feel your being ripped off or talk to me as if I am intentionaly ignoring you, this is not the case. When a situation like this happens its not about money, its about safety. Security measures are all being changed before anything further takes place between myself and ANY clients. This is as responsable and fourthright I can be regarding matter. The last thing I need at this time is a further flood of emails regarding orders or money sent. If my intention were to scam anybody I would not be typing this message, and I really hate typing So please I respectfully ask everybody do not flood me with emails, please do not post and say things that are not true and based on inaccurate info, because that has allready happened enough in one day and you will be publicaly asked where your info came from and if it is just speculation. I will be on the boards a little bit, not much thoughout the next week Just give me a few days before I begin to take care of any pending business please. Again I am here, my IP addy will prove its me, along with any personal questions anybody wants to ask me on the openboards regarding past biz, confrontations or conversations This sort of thing is to be taken seriously and is alot more important than some bro's in your gym waiting on orders. You need to just sit back and be thankfull that I am safe and I am here sending you this message that you will be taken care of. Take care!

 

[sandman_007]

This is getting way off topic, but you did bring up a good point. Money begets money. Very few people start in a poor family and end up millionaires. Ivy league educations aren't cheap, parents usually have money to be able to send their kids to those schools. And I think it's tried and true to say "It's not WHAT you know, it's WHO you know."

So the circle goes...family has money ---> gives kid a top notch education ---> kid meets more wealthy children at school ----> parents or friends parents use their connections to give kid job after graduation

FYI, my mother is a stay at home mom and my dad has never made more than $60K a year...and we all live in california, so $60K doesn't buy you much. So I am self made, and I think that is more bragable than saying that you have family who has a lot of cash.

the opportunity cost of college is worth it imho, even though some have student loans (some larger than others)- even if you did have a large student loan, and you completed college with a good degree, say in business, finance, etc, you have a much greater chance to make more money than someone with only a high school degree- on average that is. Bill Gates, a lot of sports stars (alex rodriguez), and michael dell- either never went to college or never finished it. So some get lucky, but for 99+% of us, going to college will pay off over the years than not going to college. And if you go to a well reputable university- the work will most certainly be challenging- but rewarding after you attain your degree.

 

[michaeltt]

this thread is so full of useless info its amazing.

 

[used2juice]

this thread is so full of useless info its amazing.

How true. I'm just proud I can call myself part of this beast.

In any case, I'll say it once more....the source has been busted, he IS being watched, and anyone who still wants to do biz with him go ahead. Just don't be a bitch when they come to your house and turn state's evidence.

 

[used2juice]

Hey Guvna, do me a favor and go back to osbb where that was posted (since I can't seem to log on right now) and check the busts forum. PECS started a thread there saying that p-m called him and said it WAS him who was busted. Then check his own thread in the classys and you'll see that he says that it was actually a remailer who got caught up. Then in one of those two threads (can't recall which) he says that his lawyer says that his case should be dropped...which basically tells me that once again it WAS him who got popped. I mean, why would he have hired rick collins and have a case against him if it wasn't him who got pulled over?

 

[sandman_007]

i would like to read that thread....where is this osbb message board? could someone please pm me the url...

 

[salmyson]

From the man himself..this should put all the shit to rest.



Hello Hello! I am here, and I am fine! There has been a recent SMALL problem, I assure my clients that everybody will be taken care of and everything is ok on my end. I called pecs yesterday and asked him to post a message to everyone. There are some facts I want to post up on the open board for all to read. But briefly, I do want to say that there was a "guy" pulled over by a traffic cop for no lights on his plates, he was not on probation if so he would not have made bond, he would be in jail for revocation of probation. They impounded his vehicle and its contents, the vehicle and its contents were given back to him when he was out on bail paying $500 for bond. This includes his laptop which takes a security code to get into, and cyber which takes an additional security code to get into. The amount of steriods found were less than 10cc total, and they were in his gym bag. This case was viewed in the news because an ambitous traffic cop thought he really had more than he did because a pumped up guy with a little chump change on him, nice vehicle and a rolex shined very bright in his little brain, then an ambitous reporter needed a story. By no means am I saying this person was me, that would be foolish, but i will say the story is inflamed because the true facts are just were not newsworthy so a story was made; I am sure evrybody is savvy to how easy that is done. In order to make a case newsworthy they have to add an editorial, and in this case thats all the news was because the man arrested got out of jail very quickly, his property returned very quickly and was at home several hours later, in fact, faster than the news even told the story.

Just so everybody knows, there were no reciepts to steriod transactions but reciepts to tracking info of funds sent to china. As soon as this fella got home he changed the passwords to all the boards, to cyber and to his laptop itself. Rick Collins was detained for consultation which was a very comforting and enlightening conversation to have due to the facts the charges are so small the case will likey be dropped. Also his lap top was not out of his possession long enough to enable any kind of information to be taken off the hard drive. And if the case had any merit at all they would have detained him for futher investigation and he would not have been out on bond so quickly and on the phone with Rick Collins or or any board members as Pecs.

Again, I am just revealing some facts on a case that are likely going to be publically corrected due to the facts being inflammed to make the 5 oclock news. Unfortunatly these corrections are made on 85% of reports but can only be found by looking at archives. In the event this happens I will gladly post the link that corrects the small arrest mentioned above. This must have really pissed off the guy who got pulled over in this news story and I am sure he has alot of explaning to do to family members as well as members of his community.

With all this said, I myself have over 200 emails and a very full plate to take care of. Please do not feel your being ripped off or talk to me as if I am intentionaly ignoring you, this is not the case. When a situation like this happens its not about money, its about safety. Security measures are all being changed before anything further takes place between myself and ANY clients. This is as responsable and fourthright I can be regarding matter. The last thing I need at this time is a further flood of emails regarding orders or money sent. If my intention were to scam anybody I would not be typing this message, and I really hate typing So please I respectfully ask everybody do not flood me with emails, please do not post and say things that are not true and based on inaccurate info, because that has allready happened enough in one day and you will be publicaly asked where your info came from and if it is just speculation. I will be on the boards a little bit, not much thoughout the next week Just give me a few days before I begin to take care of any pending business please. Again I am here, my IP addy will prove its me, along with any personal questions anybody wants to ask me on the openboards regarding past biz, confrontations or conversations This sort of thing is to be taken seriously and is alot more important than some bro's in your gym waiting on orders. You need to just sit back and be thankfull that I am safe and I am here sending you this message that you will be taken care of. Take care!

Thanks for the information and I do agree that in the beginning almost nothing is true. You made a good point, as time goes on, more information is released and you end up with a bullshit story, like this one.

 

[used2juice]

i would like to read that thread....where is this osbb message board? could someone please pm me the url...

Well it's too late, the thread I posted on asking why he lied has been deleted...after 40 responses over the last 3 days, it gets deleted RIGHT AFTER I ask why he was lying

But he did go on to his own thread and openly say that he IS going to continue to source...oh yeah, and his lawyer is working on getting the case dropped. So now everything is juuuust fine, well besides the fact that he is now under investigation for distribution

See, this is what irks me. Police there are gonna be watching him and yet he is STILL gonna try to keep sourcing. Is that someone you guys want to call golden? That's just pitiful and shows his true colors. He doesn't care about his customers at all, he only cares about his pocketbook.

 

[drrman]

WOW, threads like this are why i don't even come to elite anymore. You guys are SO childish, "MY DADDY CAN BEAT UP YOUR DADDY" "I MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU" i GOT MORE EDUCATION THAN YOU, WHO FUCKING CARES.......SO FUCKING CHILDISH, i used to frequent this board years ago, and enjoyed it, but its nothing but rookies now wanting to feel cool talking about something they know nothing about. I know this guy too, he was a stand up guy and that post sound exactly like his writing/response he would make. None of you know the entire situation, but you all know who makes the most money, WHO cares, this post is so fucking rediculous. But anyways, this was a TOP notch guy and was NOT the moron you want to think he was riding around with all your guys emails printed out.....but believe what you want....

 

[used2juice]

WOW, threads like this are why i don't even come to elite anymore. You guys are SO childish, "MY DADDY CAN BEAT UP YOUR DADDY" "I MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU" i GOT MORE EDUCATION THAN YOU, WHO FUCKING CARES.......SO FUCKING CHILDISH, i used to frequent this board years ago, and enjoyed it, but its nothing but rookies now wanting to feel cool talking about something they know nothing about. I know this guy too, he was a stand up guy and that post sound exactly like his writing/response he would make. None of you know the entire situation, but you all know who makes the most money, WHO cares, this post is so fucking rediculous. But anyways, this was a TOP notch guy and was NOT the moron you want to think he was riding around with all your guys emails printed out.....but believe what you want....

Eh?

He is a moron for getting caught the way he did. He is a moron for continuing to source after the police say they are gonna start an investigation on him.

Oh yeah, and even P-M doesn't know the entire situation. Besides that, he has LIED about who got snagged at the stop sign, so I don't think he is in any position to give out "the whole truth." I think the police department has a little more info on what they are planning to do that p-m does.