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Something ocurred to me...

mrplunkey

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So if someone decides they're a woman trapped in a man's body, they get a bunch of rights.

1) State-paid gender reassignment surgery
2) Anti-discrimination rights
3) Protection to use their restroom of choice
4) Gender protection rights under their new gender (i.e. a newly-declared female can sue for a hostile work environment)

etc. etc.

But what if I decide I'm a Native American or and Eskimo trapped in a Caucasian man's body? Shouldn't that mean I can check the minority box on a college application or during a job interview?
 
Well this isn't offensive at all to people with gender confusion.

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Well this isn't offensive at all to people with gender confusion.

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So gender confusion is more legitimate than race confusion?

I routinely channel the spirit of an Apache Indian Chief. You're telling me that my feelings are less significant than Bradly Mannings or Chaz Bono?
 
You're as native american as the ones that settled here before you, so I fail to see a problem.
 
I need it now!!!
 
basically what I get from this thread is plunkey is having some kind of gender identity crisis...

No, i'm having a racial identity crisis.

I've decided that I'm 1/4 native American, 1/4 Eskimo and 1/2 African American.

That makes me the hat trick of affirmative action hiring. I'm a three-for-one!

Don't discriminate against me or I'll give my bor Al Sharpton a call.
 
What state pays for sex reassignment surgery, Medicare certainly doesn't, that's an easy enough Google. I'll wager I personally know a LOT more people in the G/L/B/TV/TG community than you do, Brian, and I've never, never, never heard of sex reassignment surgery being paid for by any form of public medical assistance.

Bariatric surgery, yeah. Breast reduction surgery, yes. I personally know people who had those procedures done "on the taxpayers dime" but never reassignment surgery.

Transexualism has existed as long as humanity. It's been proven there is a measurable neurobiologic difference in a TG person's brain. You don't like it, that's your problem, not theirs.

Frankly, I'd rather my tax $$$ go to a TG to get their hormones and a nice pair of tits and a new vag (or tit removal and a nice penis) versus some senator's yearly pay hike ...

Oh, and finally ... Gender Identity Disorder is a long recognized psychological health problem. So basically if you don't want your precious tax dollars to pay to treat this disorder correctly, then neither should they go to treating schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression, PTSD or anything else listed in the DSM.
 
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I routinely channel the spirit of an Apache Indian Chief. You're telling me that my feelings are less significant than Bradly Mannings or Chaz Bono?

No, i'm having a racial identity crisis.

I've decided that I'm 1/4 native American, 1/4 Eskimo and 1/2 African American.

That makes me the hat trick of affirmative action hiring. I'm a three-for-one!

Don't discriminate against me or I'll give my bor Al Sharpton a call.

Oh, and BTW, my husband IS Native American. Card carrying and everything. He's a member of the Kahnawake tribe of the Iroquois nation. You have NO damned idea just exactly how frigging insulting your comments and insinuations are.

FYI, if you're Native American, and not living on the reservation on welfare, there ain't SHIT for special benefits out there. Since we choose not to live in poverty on the federal land but in a modest house in the suburbs we work and pay our taxes at the exactly same rate as everyone else out there. No benefits, no special programs, nada.

You may be smart but gods you are ignorant.

BTW, when it comes to being an American Indian if you haven't got the paperwork to prove a line of genetics, you aren't Native. I've got native blood in me, too, but my ancestor came from Georgia and if she and her people didn't bury their heritage they would have had to hit the Trail of Tears and risk death like the other 60,000 Cherokee who didn't make it to Oklahoma. There is a town out there, named after one of my ancestors. That and $5.00 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
 
Who gives a fuck?

Nobody owes you or your husband shit so stfu. Neither of you were alive or involved in any of the regurgitated bullshit you just puked out.
 
Lololol

'oh look at me, Im fuckin butthurt because someone was mean to someone else about a century before I ever came along'
 
Who gives a fuck?

Nobody owes you or your husband shit so stfu. Neither of you were alive or involved in any of the regurgitated bullshit you just puked out.

go fuckin cry me a river u dink sucker ill scalp your commie ass if you ever talk about my people again
 
What state pays for sex reassignment surgery, Medicare certainly doesn't, that's an easy enough Google. I'll wager I personally know a LOT more people in the G/L/B/TV/TG community than you do, Brian, and I've never, never, never heard of sex reassignment surgery being paid for by any form of public medical assistance.

Bariatric surgery, yeah. Breast reduction surgery, yes. I personally know people who had those procedures done "on the taxpayers dime" but never reassignment surgery.

Transexualism has existed as long as humanity. It's been proven there is a measurable neurobiologic difference in a TG person's brain. You don't like it, that's your problem, not theirs.

Frankly, I'd rather my tax $$$ go to a TG to get their hormones and a nice pair of tits and a new vag (or tit removal and a nice penis) versus some senator's yearly pay hike ...

Oh, and finally ... Gender Identity Disorder is a long recognized psychological health problem. So basically if you don't want your precious tax dollars to pay to treat this disorder correctly, then neither should they go to treating schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression, PTSD or anything else listed in the DSM.

I'm all for state paid hormones and a nice pair of tits for TG's. But I didn't think they could give a genetic female a penis yet.
 
bro is stone brewery supposed to be good? i bought some ruination i dunno bout that shit, it said it was a 100 at whole foods tasted like a -20 tho

Depends... Do you like IPA's? Most people either love them or hate them.

Our best Cali IPA's are Ballast Point Sculpin, Russian River Pliney The Elder and Bear Valley Racer XXX.

Stone is just "ok" in my opinion. It's available everywhere here, so it's a decent beer that can be picked up at any grocery store or target for cheap, but I wouldn't recommend it to anybody.
 
Depends... Do you like IPA's? Most people either love them or hate them.

Our best Cali IPA's are Ballast Point Sculpin, Russian River Pliney The Elder and Bear Valley Racer XXX.

Stone is just "ok" in my opinion. It's available everywhere here, so it's a decent beer that can be picked up at any grocery store or target for cheap, but I wouldn't recommend it to anybody.

not a huge fan of IPA, cool bottles tho.. ill look for those other breweries
 
What state pays for sex reassignment surgery, Medicare certainly doesn't, that's an easy enough Google. I'll wager I personally know a LOT more people in the G/L/B/TV/TG community than you do, Brian, and I've never, never, never heard of sex reassignment surgery being paid for by any form of public medical assistance.

Bariatric surgery, yeah. Breast reduction surgery, yes. I personally know people who had those procedures done "on the taxpayers dime" but never reassignment surgery.

Transexualism has existed as long as humanity. It's been proven there is a measurable neurobiologic difference in a TG person's brain. You don't like it, that's your problem, not theirs.

Frankly, I'd rather my tax $$$ go to a TG to get their hormones and a nice pair of tits and a new vag (or tit removal and a nice penis) versus some senator's yearly pay hike ...

Oh, and finally ... Gender Identity Disorder is a long recognized psychological health problem. So basically if you don't want your precious tax dollars to pay to treat this disorder correctly, then neither should they go to treating schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression, PTSD or anything else listed in the DSM.

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FYI, if you're Native American, and not living on the reservation on welfare, there ain't SHIT for special benefits out there.

There are numerous set-asides for minorities, including:

- Government contracts designated for minority-owned businesses
- Loans and grants designated specifically for minority-owned businesses
- College grants and assistance programs specifically earmarked for minorities
- Hiring guidelines (the politically-correct term is an "opportunity hire")

But I wouldn't blame you for not knowing this. You've never mustered a legitimate effort to enter the workforce so there's really no way you'd know.

And I love the logic. Someone can declare their sexual orientation in blatant disregard for obvious chromosomal differences, yet when someone declares their racial makeup (which is sometimes genetically ambiguous to begin with), people start getting offended.

But I don't mind. I'm sure narrow-minded Christian conservatives were offended when people started declaring themselves different genders as well. We just need to educate people better and put an end to trans-raciophobia.
 

All I can say is this:

Why would someone slice up their genitals, mutate their body, their voice, behaviour, expose themselves to ridicule, judgement, surgery, the horrible side effects and enslaving procedure of hormones, the horrible friends and family strain and so much more; if they didn't feel completely alien in their own body?

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All I can say is this:

Why would someone slice up their genitals, mutate their body, their voice, behaviour, expose themselves to ridicule, judgement, surgery, the horrible side effects and enslaving procedure of hormones, the horrible friends and family strain and so much more; if they didn't feel completely alien in their own body?

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Why would someone kill someone else when they would get death penalty or life in prison?
People dont always act reasonably or logically
 
Not that I think we need to be paying for sex reassignment surgery, but why on earth are we paying for a convicted murderer's sexual reassignment?

because he has to properly express himself as a person and goobermint funded sex reassignment should be constitutionally protected. Its the liberal way rob.
 
because he has to properly express himself as a person and goobermint funded sex reassignment should be constitutionally protected. Its the liberal way rob.

this is beyond liberalism or conservatism anymore, this place is just becoming retarded on all levels and from every angle. Human beings period just don't make sense anymore. There's literally nothing going on anymore where I can calmly say "yeah they got that one right".
 
seriously, as much as I really don't want to, let's talk this one through for minute. Dude kills his wife 20 or so years ago and now gets to have titties put on him and a vagina made for himself. What am I missing?
 
and how long before some psycho path who's doing life, demands titty's and a vagina so he can than demand to be put in a womans' prison? The fuck does he have to lose? The alternative is to spend life as a strict prison bottom with no hope of every seeing vagina ever again in his life. "Well if I can't be a man I might as well be a lesbian". And Mazeltov to him cause It's actually starting to make sense now.
 
this is beyond liberalism or conservatism anymore, this place is just becoming retarded on all levels and from every angle. Human beings period just don't make sense anymore. There's literally nothing going on anymore where I can calmly say "yeah they got that one right".

Nah its still liberalism, maybe far left stuff but still liberal.
Lets just say I could easily see obama warming up to something like it way before bush/mccain/romney would
 
All I can say is this:

Why would someone slice up their genitals, mutate their body, their voice, behaviour, expose themselves to ridicule, judgement, surgery, the horrible side effects and enslaving procedure of hormones, the horrible friends and family strain and so much more; if they didn't feel completely alien in their own body?

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Are you referring to bodybuilders?

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There are numerous set-asides for minorities, including:

- Government contracts designated for minority-owned businesses
- Loans and grants designated specifically for minority-owned businesses
My husband does not own his own business, not his thing.
- College grants and assistance programs specifically earmarked for minorities
You tell me where, neither he nor his son got squat for college.
- Hiring guidelines (the politically-correct term is an "opportunity hire")
Really? If he screws up at his job he gets fired just like the next guy and if he DOES lose his job do you think companies are going to be jumping up and down to hire him? Him being native american is nothing more than an interesting conversational opener.

But I wouldn't blame you for not knowing this. You've never mustered a legitimate effort to enter the workforce so there's really no way you'd know.
I got my first job when I was about 20, night work cleaning offices for slimebags like you. I had to have night work because I couldn't afford daycare with my skill set and needed my husband to watch our son. I also went to a trade school evenings and eventually got a job working full time as an office manager until I was laid off in 2009 (the company went belly up within a year). Since I was debt free I managed nicely until my unemployment ran out then was self employed full time in transcription for the next eight years until my tendons started blowing out.

Just because I didn't have the money or credit to put myself through college straight out of high school doesn't make me lazy. Who fixes your car, cleans your house, repairs your appliances, paints your walls, picks up your garbage, repairs your roof, plumbing and heating? I'll wager none of those lazy fuckers have college degrees, either.
 
All I can say is this:

Why would someone slice up their genitals, mutate their body, their voice, behaviour, expose themselves to ridicule, judgement, surgery, the horrible side effects and enslaving procedure of hormones, the horrible friends and family strain and so much more; if they didn't feel completely alien in their own body?

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Because they are mentally ill.
 
Who fixes your car, cleans your house, repairs your appliances, paints your walls, picks up your garbage, repairs your roof, plumbing and heating?


I do all that shit myself. Like a true American.

I don't need anyone to do any of that for me.

I fix my own cars, I clean my own stuff, I fix my own stuff, I paint my own stuff, I built my own fence, everything.

It's not so much that people can't do this by themselves, they're too fucking lazy to learn how to do it themselves, and it's not even hard. It just takes time to actually not being a lazy piece of shit.

Okay, I wheel out a trash can to the curb to have someone dump it into the back of a truck. You got me...

Btw, my garbage driver is white.

'Merica
 
I do all that shit myself. Like a true American.

I don't need anyone to do any of that for me.

I fix my own cars, I clean my own stuff, I fix my own stuff, I paint my own stuff, I built my own fence, everything.

It's not so much that people can't do this by themselves, they're too fucking lazy to learn how to do it themselves, and it's not even hard. It just takes time to actually not being a lazy piece of shit.

Okay, I wheel out a trash can to the curb to have someone dump it into the back of a truck. You got me...

Btw, my garbage driver is white.

'Merica

bitch you live in your fuckin parents house those are called chores you asshole.
 
I do all that shit myself. Like a true American.

I don't need anyone to do any of that for me.

I fix my own cars, I clean my own stuff, I fix my own stuff, I paint my own stuff, I built my own fence, everything.

It's not so much that people can't do this by themselves, they're too fucking lazy to learn how to do it themselves, and it's not even hard. It just takes time to actually not being a lazy piece of shit.

Okay, I wheel out a trash can to the curb to have someone dump it into the back of a truck. You got me...

Btw, my garbage driver is white.

'Merica

If you ever learn how to satisfy a woman you won't have enough free time to handle all those chores.
 
bitch you live in your fuckin parents house those are called chores you asshole.


LMAO!

Taking 4 months to construct a retaining wall and put up a fence is more than just a chore.

Mowing the lawn is a chore. Doing laundry is a chore.

Painting a house, finishing basement and building a fence are not chores. I didn't do it myself, my dad and I did it together. He's rich and could have hired people to do it, but he didn't because we do our own work because we aren't lazy morons.
 
LMAO!

Taking 4 months to construct a retaining wall and put up a fence is more than just a chore.

Mowing the lawn is a chore. Doing laundry is a chore.

Painting a house, finishing basement and building a fence are not chores. I didn't do it myself, my dad and I did it together. He's rich and could have hired people to do it, but he didn't because we do our own work because we aren't lazy morons.


Bitch plz I have retaining walls all around my property and that shit is like building legos bro. Pour a concrete footer and start stacking blocks.


and yes, in your case those are chores since it's not your house.
 
Bitch plz I have retaining walls all around my property and that shit is like building legos bro. Pour a concrete footer and start stacking blocks.


and yes, in your case those are chores since it's not your house.

That's not an actual retaining wall, that's just a block wall. You did it like a pussy.


We had to dig a 4 foot deep trench, 12 feetback and 100 feet long on side, 60 feet on the adjacent side. That long side was concrete that we had to remove 8 of those feet back, 90 feet long. It was a basketball court.

We had to internally frame the retaining wall with rebar, put up outer framing, pour that stuff, also embedding the fence post bases into it, put in a french drain, move all the crappy clay dirt out, bring in top soil to fill that giant hole, put in the posts and fence framing, measure and cut about 700 slats because the yard is on a slope, each has 9 screws holding it to the fence frame, so 6300 screws.

Then we installed a drip irrigation system.

Then we planted pine and aspen trees, flowers, small bushes, etc.

It was a full on excavation project. Not just lay a footing and stack blocks. We did it right like a boss.
 
Are you cheap Jew Mormons?

We are ballers.

We just do stuff ourselves because my family are all engineers. We always do things way better than you would get if you hired someone.

It costs much less but the work is hard. It's better than watching tv while some high school drop outs do half ass work while their boss doesn't supervise them that well.
 
My husband does not own his own business, not his thing.
You tell me where, neither he nor his son got squat for college.
Really? If he screws up at his job he gets fired just like the next guy and if he DOES lose his job do you think companies are going to be jumping up and down to hire him? Him being native american is nothing more than an interesting conversational opener.

I got my first job when I was about 20, night work cleaning offices for slimebags like you. I had to have night work because I couldn't afford daycare with my skill set and needed my husband to watch our son. I also went to a trade school evenings and eventually got a job working full time as an office manager until I was laid off in 2009 (the company went belly up within a year). Since I was debt free I managed nicely until my unemployment ran out then was self employed full time in transcription for the next eight years until my tendons started blowing out.

Just because I didn't have the money or credit to put myself through college straight out of high school doesn't make me lazy. Who fixes your car, cleans your house, repairs your appliances, paints your walls, picks up your garbage, repairs your roof, plumbing and heating? I'll wager none of those lazy fuckers have college degrees, either.

So should I use this as a teachable moment, or should I just do the "Hang in there musclemom!!!! :heart: :heart: :heart: ?
 
We are ballers.

We just do stuff ourselves because my family are all engineers. We always do things way better than you would get if you hired someone.

It costs much less but the work is hard. It's better than watching tv while some high school drop outs do half ass work while their boss doesn't supervise them that well.

you're not a baller living at home you stupid fuck
 
We are ballers.

We just do stuff ourselves because my family are all engineers. We always do things way better than you would get if you hired someone.

It costs much less but the work is hard. It's better than watching tv while some high school drop outs do half ass work while their boss doesn't supervise them that well.

Why the fuck you still living at home rob?
 
job,(check +) own home,(check +) decent vehicle,(check) girlfriend,(check ++) friend of any gender (check+), intelligence (check+), integrity (check++++, honesty (check++), Viagra/Cialis prescription (check --) <---wtf?

Where you want me to stop rob?

FYP :coffee::D
 
I remember when I still lived at home..



I've lived away from home before.

I can move out any time I want. I don't to save money and put it in savings towards a down payment on a house.

Since I'm making good progress in the lady relationship I might be married next year so I'll have to move out anyways.

My parents said I can stay until I'm married or move out whenever. They don't really care. I just sleep here. I'm gone all day everyday except Sunday. In fact, there's a huge percentage of single adults that live with parents these days.
 
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