So you want to gain weight...

[dylangemelli]

1. If you have more education than I can dream of then you could have at least taken the time to google thermodynamics. Have you studied the subject? I have, at many levels.
2. I realized I come off as a prick, but if you proclaim to know something you can expect to be scrutinized, right? Debate is important or you just have a bunch of sheep grazing around.
3. I never questioned your knowledge of dieting, etc. I really don't care if you know everything about it or not.
4. I realize you've been helpful on this board, so it's not a personal attack. I'd rather see you posting than not posting.

Yea man, I have studied health and fitness for more than a decade... Here's the problem I have with you...

Do you realize the amount of time and effort I put into this site and MANY OTHER FORUMS on a DAILY BASIS? I wake up extra early to post, stay up fucking late to post and do so throughout the day at work, risking getting in trouble, just to help people...

So along the way, the chances for a mistake here or there is highly likely considering the output I produce every fucking day... So excuse me, for making a one word mistake while typing as fast as i can in the morning to try to get a big posting up for everyone's benefit... Excuse me for making a simple mistake... I have a masters degree, and I didn't obtain that by not knowing what the fuck im doing... So for you to EVER throw that into question over one mistake with the extreme output I am producing says a lot about you... Its people like you that ruin shit with your smartass comments...

Second, I totally agree with debate being good and that was NEVER a problem here... I have NO PROBLEM with people throwing things into question or having an opinion... That's what makes this site so great... and I was under the assumption you were a smarter guy who would be good to kick it with but when you question other things, intelligence for instance, then you've crossed the line... unless its warranted, which it was not...

You obviously know I do a tremendous amount of posting and I appreciate the fact that you want me to keep posting... Just realize that none of us are perfect so a slip up here and there is totally possible... However a "did you mean this" is all that would take, not the personal attack you made... I don't know everything there is to know but I have an abundant amount of knowledge that I am trying to share with everyone... We learn new things on a daily basis, especially a person like me, who is constantly updating their knowledge... So we can all learn from each other as well... I hope this concludes all this and we can stick to talking about the issues at hand...

I just want to give people different options to help them break plateaus... It all starts with diet and training... when you hit a plateau, then these can help you break the plateau... That's all I am trying to say... I hope that this serves as some help to everyone...

 

[dylangemelli]

Good post Dylan, there will always be the devils advocates out there that will question your logic, shit we all know it is food, hard work in the gym, and consistency that makes muscles grow...without food people will not benefit from AAS or supplements, but the do play a critical role in the scenario and definitely help us get to where we want to be a bit faster...like N2 Bulk, which I have not tried yet due to I am trying to lean out at the moment so practicing the laws of thermogenisis at moment lol...fortunately for me I know how to put on the weight, its just taking off the fat that comes along with the weight gain...anyway, thanks for putting in the time not only on this thread but the others you have done too bro, at least you are taking the time to share your knowledge with others and help them understand some of what they can try to break past a plateau or having a hard time due to being a hard gainer...food is the most anabolic compound we can ingest, but supplements, proteins, and BCAAs have their part as well...people will always try to argue the other points, that is what is great about.these threads...hear both sides right?

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excellent post brother... said perfectly... i agree, debate on the points is excellent and that's what is all about... everyone has an opinion, experience, thought, etc... and its nice to hear them all... everything has their part, just like you said... its all about getting past barriers... it starts with hard work and knowledge and that drive for excellence... the aas, ph's, supps, they just enhance it! =)

 

[MattJS]

Good diet and heavy lifting is necessary. AAS will help significantly. Supplements are optional, if you opt to take them, you don't need five or six of them knocking about your system at any one time. I've known some guys to get huge literally taking no supplements at all, just huge amounts of red meat and pounding it hard at the gym. Others swear by their BCAAs. Personally only if I think I'm gonna have a bad day at the gym I'll take a bit of CEE. Protein shakes are handy post workout. I've always been a believer in keeping supplements to a minimum, people have got big and strong in the past before most of these products were available. I won't argue that in some cases they make things easier, however in my opinion most looking for strength and/or size gains should prioritise eating a lot of good clean food.

 

[moya]

im not a fan of supps at all honestly... like i said earlier, nothing beats GOMAD...

 

[bigbassturd]

Dylan you can't win for losing...lol they're on your case today bro.

Facts are facts though, and he clearly stated that upping your calories comes first. It's hard to be a member of EF for more than 10 minutes without knowing Dylan knows his shit when it comes to diet.

In order of importance, getting big comes down to

1: Diet.
2: Training
3: Consistency
4: Research
5: Supps/AAS/Other

I've tried every supplement he mentioned with the exception of Onslaught, and can say with conviction they are very effective. Stacking them would be extremely beneficial to anyone looking to build muscle who has the correct diet and workout plan.

Dylan, next time try to write like fucking Hemmingway and maybe the English Lit 4 professors from Harvard Grad program will leave you alone. Oh, and no excuses about having a job and shit to do, just sounds weak...nice life..



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[All In a Year]

im not a fan of supps at all honestly... like i said earlier, nothing beats GOMAD...

Gomad's cool if you wanna get fat. Much better ways to gain weight than gomad in my opinion.

 

[eddymerckx]

If I want to gain weight I just drive past a pizza place really slow and I gain weight on fumes alone:-(

 

[moya]

Gomad's cool if you wanna get fat. Much better ways to gain weight than gomad in my opinion.

what better way is there for sheer weight, because thats what this post is about...

yes you will gain some fat, but your muscular gains will far outreach your muscular gains on a 'lean bulking' diet... how much fat you gain will vary and cardio and the right diet can keep that fairly minimal...
there is no bulking supplement out there that can put more size on you than milk, period...

essentially this is what dyllan talks about in the introductory paragraph before it starts to sound like a sales pitch ( i know you didnt mean it too, but it does sound that way)... UPPING YOUR CALORIES, and that is simply what gomad is all about...

 

[muscleaddiction]

Dylan you can't win for losing...lol they're on your case today bro.

Facts are facts though, and he clearly stated that upping your calories comes first. It's hard to be a member of EF for more than 10 minutes without knowing Dylan knows his shit when it comes to diet.

In order of importance, getting big comes down to

1: Diet.
2: Training
3: Consistency
4: Research
5: Supps/AAS/Other

I've tried every supplement he mentioned with the exception of Onslaught, and can say with conviction they are very effective. Stacking them would be extremely beneficial to anyone looking to build muscle who has the correct diet and workout plan.

Dylan, next time try to write like fucking Hemmingway and maybe the English Lit 4 professors from Harvard Grad program will leave you alone. Oh, and no excuses about having a job and shit to do, just sounds weak...nice life..



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This is a perfect summary of what D was trying to get across...and the order of the list is spot on. Some people like students, people who don't have the luxury of having a microwave or kitchen at their disposal to make or reheat their food during the day or work shift, or who gets stuck in unexpected meetings need the ability to put down some quality protein, meal replacements, or BCAAs so they don't skip a meal...that is where supplements come in handy. I use protein powder to make homemade protein bars for this reason and keep 2 in my lunchbox daily at work...easy, nutritious, and for spur of the moment situations when work or duty calls. I too am a firm believer that there is no replacement for food...I.do not have a Masters degree, or have studied nutrition in school, all of my education is from following my passion and this lifestyle, and trial and error of worthless supplements, when I utilize supplements they are from a few select places and that is it. Food is the #1 anabolic substance you can ingest, just as I said above...and the order you listed is perfect. Thanks again for a great write up and debate thread...I love this forum! So many great minds here!

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[All In a Year]

what better way is there for sheer weight, because thats what this post is about...

yes you will gain some fat, but your muscular gains will far outreach your muscular gains on a 'lean bulking' diet... how much fat you gain will vary and cardio and the right diet can keep that fairly minimal...
there is no bulking supplement out there that can put more size on you than milk, period...

essentially this is what dyllan talks about in the introductory paragraph before it starts to sound like a sales pitch ( i know you didnt mean it too, but it does sound that way)... UPPING YOUR CALORIES, and that is simply what gomad is all about...

Milk is for babies.