so you want a massive back?

[satchboogie]

check my pics to see if I'm bloated young man.



you have a lot to learn young man.

s'all good bro. no beef here.
just dont like to be called 'gripless'. lol.

btw.. pics look good.

different programs and different philsophies.. neither is right or wrong.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

agreed

I appreciate the sentiment man

 

[Mike_Rojas]

Doesn't grip work increase the size of your forearms? That would be a bodybuilding purpose. Get those Popeye forearms going. Yuck yuck yuck yuck

 

[crew9]

Doesn't grip work increase the size of your forearms? That would be a bodybuilding purpose. Get those Popeye forearms going. Yuck yuck yuck yuck

Ronnie Coleman has huge forearms and he can't close the number 2 COC, so a post on this board says. Strength does not always equate to size.

 

[crew9]

I tried to keep my comment objective and mentioning both sides, in an effort NOT to start the impending BB vs Powerlifter battle, which is stupid, and never gets anywhere.

That being stated:

The difference I see in your bench shirt/suit reference, is simply that the shirts/suit are legal, straps are not. Chalk also helps me lifts heavier weights, is legal in PL and Strongman. Neither BB's or PL/Strongmen disagree with chalk.

Like it's been stated before, it depends on your goals. If your goals are a pefect body, state your PR's accordingly. Inevitably, once you state a deadlift of XXXlbs, you will be asked by strength athletes if it was "raw". Be prepared.

PL's brag about the weights they move, BB's brag about arm/leg/chest size and low BF%. Neither is right or wrong, just different.


Joker

No matter the reason you lift for it's always a good feeling to get that 315 bench, that 405 squat, or that 500 deadlift. Keep in mind most people who lift classify themselves as a bodybuilder even though they don't compete. Not to mention that majority of this board are just average people so why not let them feel better about themselves by sharing their accomplishment regardless of what they call themselves. Ya know?

 

[Debaser]

Ronnie Coleman has huge forearms and he can't close the number 2 COC, so a post on this board says. Strength does not always equate to size.

That's crushing strength. You're only moving your fingers to squeeze. You're not pulling anything. Increasing that will generally make your hands bigger and not your forearms. Like I said anyway, I don't know the degree that having a stronger grip will affect your forearms, but it could affect your overall strength/size (i.e. having a stronger grip will make many of your lifts stronger overall)

Ronnie Coleman isn't a good example for anything. He's a genetic superfreak with lots of gear. But in terms of strength equating to size, you should know that he does deadlift over 800 lbs for reps, and front squats I believe over 600.

 

[Exodus]

That's crushing strength. You're only moving your fingers to squeeze. You're not pulling anything. Increasing that will generally make your hands bigger and not your forearms. Like I said anyway, I don't know the degree that having a stronger grip will affect your forearms, but it could affect your overall strength/size (i.e. having a stronger grip will make many of your lifts stronger overall)

Ronnie Coleman isn't a good example for anything. He's a genetic superfreak with lots of gear. But in terms of strength equating to size, you should know that he does deadlift over 800 lbs for reps, and front squats I believe over 600.

yes you are correct in the crushing strength vs gripping strength.

however, ronnie uses straps for his deadlifts.

a probodybuilder named johnny o jackson has deadlifted 800lb in a meet within the last 18 months with no straps.

X

 

[revexrevex]

I totally agree with crew9. Straps are very beneficial during certain times. To throw them away would be getting rid of a valuable training aid

 

[sinjinsmythe33]

a massive back? deadlifts off plates or box, out of a rack and with snatch grip. cleans, rows and pull ups. alot of food too.

 

[louden_swain]

I think deadlifts are excellent for adding mass.

We cannot forget about barbell rows, t-bar rows, or chins. . also important exercises.

BTW, there is nothing wrong with using straps. I would rather my back fail than my grip.