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This thread seems a bit heated. Are straps the training equivalent of a Republicans vs. Democrats discussion?

Have I missed something?

I obviously think if you can get to the point at which you do not need straps, that's ideal. I do not, however, think I'd simply forego them for X period at the expense of my lats, lower back etc. Nate makes a good point in noting that it's a short-term problem, but what happens when you've tried to address that problem for some time now?

I've tried just that. I started working grip specifically and pretty hard about three months ago (? maybe four). I'm at the point where I can hang from a towel-wrapped bar for the same amount of time as when I started...plus 50 more lbs. :) Gotta love dip belts, eh?

The trouble is, I have very small hands. Nonerz's hands are probably as big as mine if not bigger! As such, grip training has helped but gripping stuff is still a limiting factor for me. My SLDL has improved a little, but I'm still struggling to hang on to it.

It's the only exercise on which I've typically employed straps, and after not using them for a very long time I'm going back to them. I'm confident I'll nail that 275x20 w/ straps, something that's eluded me because my little hands can't hold on at the end. And soon after that, I want 315x20.

My grip/forearms might suffer some small, almost indiscernable degree as a result, but moving the stiff-legs up by 40 lbs. for the same reps will no doubt translate to a tangible increase in the hamstrings and lower back.

It's not as if I haven't tried, or that I'll foresake grip training. But I'm done with my dinky hamstrings. Fuck being small *wraps wrists*
 
not to be a dumbass but i am a newbie to deads(and god i fucking love doing them) but whats the deal with chalk, i dont understand the whole chalk thing, whats it for?
what am i missing.
 
crew9 said:



I understand your point but your comment is doing nothing but trying to stir up an arguement. I'll make a comment I may or may not agree with just to stir things up. I know a lot of people commenting here are strongman but how about you powerlifters. Please think about dissing straps the next time your squeezing your ass into your bench shirt or squat suit. I mean afterall straps help you lift weights your normally couldn't and so do powerlifting suits.

On a side note gotta love chalk/rosin bags.

I tried to keep my comment objective and mentioning both sides, in an effort NOT to start the impending BB vs Powerlifter battle, which is stupid, and never gets anywhere.

That being stated:

The difference I see in your bench shirt/suit reference, is simply that the shirts/suit are legal, straps are not. Chalk also helps me lifts heavier weights, is legal in PL and Strongman. Neither BB's or PL/Strongmen disagree with chalk.

Like it's been stated before, it depends on your goals. If your goals are a pefect body, state your PR's accordingly. Inevitably, once you state a deadlift of XXXlbs, you will be asked by strength athletes if it was "raw". Be prepared.

PL's brag about the weights they move, BB's brag about arm/leg/chest size and low BF%. Neither is right or wrong, just different.


Joker
 
satchboogie said:
whats the point of deadlifting if your forearms will give out before the back/hammies?????

use straps!


You're lets make it easy on myself attitude will get you only so far. Sooner or later you will have to accept the fact that your forearms and grip are WEAK.

Better sooner than later my gripless man.
 
PolishHammer1977 said:



You're lets make it easy on myself attitude will get you only so far. Sooner or later you will have to accept the fact that your forearms and grip are WEAK.

Better sooner than later my gripless man.

if it makes you feel better my bloated buddy i'll admit it now.

once again.. who the fuck cares about a strong grip????:p :p
 
satchboogie said:


if it makes you feel better my bloated buddy i'll admit it now.

once again.. who the fuck cares about a strong grip????:p :p

I do. And other Powerlifters and Strongmen.

Different goals for different sports. Don't brag about the weight if it doesn't matter, don't brag about BF% if it doesn't matter. That's all I'm sayin'.....:)

Here's hopin' that this stays objective.........;)


Joker
 
satchboogie said:


if it makes you feel better my bloated buddy i'll admit it now.

once again.. who the fuck cares about a strong grip????:p :p

check my pics to see if I'm bloated young man.

:rolleyes:

you have a lot to learn young man.
 
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