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So - you think you're serious about training???

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Answer the following:


Do you ALWAYS hit up a post w/o protein/carb drink and then follow with another larger meal 1.5 to 2 hours later?

Do you ALWAYS know how many calories per day day you are eating?

What about carbs?

Protein?

Fat?

Do you take a multi vit/min?

Creatine and Glutamine everyday?

Supplement with flax oil as needed?

What about ala??



..........to me these are the BASICS....everyone "should" be able to say yes to at LEAST 2/3 of them....if not and your training is lagging....take note....if your training is NOT lagging and you missed a lot of them...think about how much better it COULD be...
 
most times lagging results in the gym are the result of lagging efforts outside of there...
 
Hmmm Lets see .....
Cornholio said:
Answer the following:


Do you ALWAYS hit up a post w/o protein/carb drink and then follow with another larger meal 1.5 to 2 hours later?

++ Since my w/o is at the end of the day 2 hours post dinner.. I eat a protein drink and small carb snack

Do you ALWAYS know how many calories per day day you are eating?

++ Absolutely !

What about carbs?

++ YUP

Protein?
++ YUP

Fat?
++YUP

Do you take a multi vit/min?
++YUP and 2 grams of C and a sep Vit E

Creatine and Glutamine everyday?
+++ Hmm.. Nope on that one

Supplement with flax oil as needed?
++ YUP Everyday on my grapenuts 1 tlbs of MassQuantities High Linglan flax

What about ala??
++ NO WAY! makes my pepe smell stinky!


..........to me these are the BASICS....everyone "should" be able to say yes to at LEAST 2/3 of them....if not and your training is lagging....take note....if your training is NOT lagging and you missed a lot of them...think about how much better it COULD be...
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Do I win?
 
You can lead a bodybuilder to powerlifting....but you can't.....:lmao:

Actually I can answer yes to most of the questions...I just don't freak out about it as much as some people.
 
No glutamine, because it's useless and if you're on it's pointless. Otherwise, yes. :)

...and then some.
 
I am pretty meticulous about what I consume. After all, you need good food to grow. I think training is the easy part. . .its what you do outside of training that will get you results. Thats my opinion.
 
...similar logic would apply to creatine...but EVERYONE knows what a cycle of var + creatine will get ya...
 
....interesting...the cell volumization is def real imo - therefore growth is more likely to occur.....
 
lol...well you should see all the little sticky notes I have lying around where i keep up with my daily protein consumption.
 
Whe I'm cutting I eat the same things every on hi day and the same things on every low day, so I never need to measure. There's no variation...just numbers in the pie-hole. :)
 
Do you people that keep tract of excatly the amount of carbs, fat, protein, etc... eat pretty much the same foods every day?

If these are all "basics", it looks like I need to get my ass in gear, because I don't fair to well right now.
 
Only when cutting for comp, or trying to hit a specific physique goal. Otherwise, I basically eat the same foods as on my cutting diet, only ALOT more.

I carb rotate no matter what.

Cutting diet (about 50g CHO on low days and 150g high...protein and fat always constant):
http://home.swbell.net/arkaynen/cutting.htm

Bulking diet (This diet is the high day, the cutting diet as seen above at 100g is the low day, and again P and F are constant):
http://home.swbell.net/arkaynen/bulking.htm
 
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Nope, I never said I was serious about training. I'm as half assed as they come.

I don't take any creatine, glutamine, vitamins, ala and rarely Flax (never had the cash, so I never got into the habit). I haven't got a clue how many calories I'm eating. I just go by my hunger. If I'm hungry, I eat, If I'm not I don't. I only have a general idea on the amount of protein I'm taking in, and no clue how much carbs and fat. I don't always get a protein shake after my workouts either.

However, I'm not too worried, cause my goal right now is to keep what little muscle and strength I have, while I increase my endurance. Remarkably my strength is still going up slightly, even on my lame diet. However, my weight has stayed constant. I might get serious this winter.
 
If I'm not cutting, I just use vit/mins. If you're eating adequately, you should, in theory, be able to get everything you need from food.
 
so - yopu're getting 4 pounds of red maeat daily for the creatine.....10 pounds of fish for the Omega's - ask Bfold about adding flax to his diet.
 
I use udo's all the time.

Your comment ASSUMES that you need that much. I'm making 80 pound PR's eating food, taking udos, and taking vit/min supplements. If YOU need that much creatine, then by all means, chug away. :)
 
Sorry - 5 grams is standard is it not???

Isn't it about one pound of meat per gram?
 
All the supplement intake depends on your goals.

A powerlifter doesnt care about his calorie count or gram counts of anything. he just needs a general estimate like 1 gram of protein per pound.

Regular white creatine powder is by far the best in terms of cost and effectivenes.

1000 grams of creatine is like $25 now. Take 20 grams a day while training with your water and it will work very well. Thats like 2 months worth for $25

FLAx, ala and that stuff is good too...much more impoant for bodybuilders than powerlifers
 
>Do you ALWAYS hit up a post w/o protein/carb drink and then >follow with another larger meal 1.5 to 2 hours later?

I drink a protein shake almost right before working out, and try to make a larger meal at least 1/2 hour later.

>Do you ALWAYS know how many calories per day day you are >eating?

Not exactly, I find it harder to count the calories :]

>What about carbs?
Yes

>Protein?
Yes

>Fat?
Yes

>Do you take a multi vit/min?
Multivitamin, 500mg Vit C, and 800U.i Vit E

>Creatine and Glutamine everyday?
I use glutamine everyday, at least for me it has worked very well. I keep my diet in check and find it easier with it for my muscles to recover.
Regarding Creatine, only when I'm in bulking because it makes me hold water.

>Supplement with flax oil as needed?
Where I like it's hard to find it.
Do you recommend an alternative for it??

>What about ala??
Unfortunately, here ala is very very expensive and hard to find... supply and demand you know. So I prefer to use that money for extra protein or food as needed.
I would like to try ala, but for now it is not possible :(
 
Cornholio said:
Sorry - 5 grams is standard is it not???

Isn't it about one pound of meat per gram?
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"Standard" according to who? I don't find out what I need from an article, I do what works.
 
Cornholio said:
Answer the following:


Do you ALWAYS hit up a post w/o protein/carb drink and then follow with another larger meal 1.5 to 2 hours later?

Do you ALWAYS know how many calories per day day you are eating?

What about carbs?

Protein?

Fat?

Do you take a multi vit/min?

Creatine and Glutamine everyday?

Supplement with flax oil as needed?

What about ala??



..........to me these are the BASICS....everyone "should" be able to say yes to at LEAST 2/3 of them....if not and your training is lagging....take note....if your training is NOT lagging and you missed a lot of them...think about how much better it COULD be...
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ALL of that and then some.

Do you follow a consistent biorhythm?; afterall we grow during sleep.

Do you monitor gym progress and be certain that each time you go you provide a new stimulus to the targeted muscle.?

Do you take down a protein shake when you wake up to piss at night?

Do you wake up every morning and hit numerous poses in the mirror and think to yourself "damn i look good"?
 
CytoMel said:
All the supplement intake depends on your goals.

A powerlifter doesnt care about his calorie count or gram counts of anything
FLAx, ala and that stuff is good too...much more impoant for bodybuilders than powerlifers
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Again...ask Bfold the results of adding extra protein and especially flax b-4 his last contest....blew everyone out of the water...he is bigger AND leaner....the ala will be MOST beneficial to a powerlifter as it increases muscle glycogen storage by 40%.......yes 40%....
 
5 grams is recommended in terms of Cr.h20 dosgae in 90% of ALL studies...are you saying that you do not take it at all
 
Cornholio said:


Again...ask Bfold the results of adding extra protein and especially flax b-4 his last contest....blew everyone out of the water...he is bigger AND leaner....the ala will be MOST beneficial to a powerlifter as it increases muscle glycogen storage by 40%.......yes 40%....
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I wrote about "powerlifters" before. Then you give me the B Fold example.

B fold is a strongman. There is a big difference.

Strongmen might do an event like the Atlas stones and it could take a minute or more to complete. There are many strongmen events that take at least 30 sec to complete. Powerlifting lifts are under 10 seconds generally. BIG DIFERENCE between strongman and powerlifting.

Flax is a very good supplement which I actually take regularly when I have the money to. I like flax as I mentioned before but I dont think its essential to a powerlifter by any means.

Ok...ALA increases muscle glycogen storage by 40%..sounds good but does this translate into powerlifting? It could help build bigger muscles or is it more of a bodybuilding pump/cutting/vascularity thing..probably.

If you want to post about supplements on the powerlifting forum I think its a good idea. There are some threads like that already. Its ineresting, generally powerlifters seem to detest most supplements outside of multi's, whey and creatine....but you could be onto something Corn with the flax, ALA for powerlifters.

You will find powerlifters generall sprend their $ on juice and food.
 
CytoMel said:
You will find powerlifters generall sprend their $ on juice and food.
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He's right, you know....I prefer Apple Juice :)
 
I cannot answer yes to any of your questions.

I cannot remember the last time I drank a protein drink.

Creatine gives me cramps. I tried it, despite reading that the Westside crew had tried it and hated it. Tried it, hated it, will never do it again.

Calories, don't give a shit. If I am going to be in the 242's as I am for my next meet. I eat more, and I eat stuff heavier in calories to get my weight up. If I am lifting in the 220's as I will in the contest one month after this one, then I will drop my carb intake down, eat more protein and salads, and keep an eye on the scale. Unless you are entering the olympia real soon, nutrition is highly over rated.

Flax, ALA, all that other shit, most of it I have never heard of. And unless the legal supplement market has changed dramatically in the last 5 years since I gave up on it, and I doubt that it has, then 99 percent of the crap they sell at GNC is a total waste of money. Buy ground beef and test instead.

I used to be eat up with keeping track of all that stuff, and I knew to the gram how much protein and fat and carbs I was taking in, I also took all the trendy new supps on the market, spending way more on that worthless crap than I ever have on juice, and I was way smaller, way weaker, and way dumber than I am now.

I am not shitting on your thread at all. But your idea of being serious won't cut it around strength athletes. Nobody in my crew could answer those questions yes, not even 1/3 of the questions. And you will not find a more serious group of guys about there training.

I have increased my bench and squat by over 150 lbs each in the last year. I had a house built with a room in it specifically designed for a home gym cause I was scaring the people at the YMCA with the amount of weight I was putting on the bar.

Think I am not serious about my training? Come stay with me for a week. Keep up with my 4 one hour training sessions, and my 6 to 8 General Physical Preparedness sessions per week, and do every rep, at the same weight I do them, then tell me who is serious about training.

B.
 
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